Leelas and Rants

[Maggie]

several people have come on board with a huge meme... that of this "simulation" as a game we are voluntarily playing. One of the people we hear more and more form is Sonia Barrett. I like her very much and she is a grandmother. Grandmothers hold a special place for me in the game of life. She has free webseminars. In these she Rants... By this I mean she explicates her opinion of "what is going on." I think we should all be ranting and it may seem like harsh words sometimes. Soft to prickly are tones of rants... they come in all flavors.

I also am taken with the post I made about Krishna in the Cosmic thread. A particular guru ranted about the playfulness , even slightly socially scoundrelish and tricky plafulness of God. Of course tricky and scoundrel are opinions. However in the game it is a world where opinions shape our game. We need to hear ourselves talk and in the case of writing, using Journaling as a tool to know thyself.

I start my rant:

Tonight I feel infuriated by a family who seem so shallow, so unhealthy and so pitiful that it gets my gorge up.

The reason I feel angry is that I have been involved with them. It staretd with a "Kitty House". It is a place where Eileen kept her cats. No one lived there. At first in taking the job, I was horrified by the fact that they live all alone and see people only once a day. It goes againts my grain that companion animals belong with people! These SO UNCONSCIOUS humans just collect the cats thinking they need only to be fed and watered.

This started three years ago. I am very upset that I have ended up taking 3 cats here this week and helped take three more to another well intentioned person who needs more cats like a mallet hit on her head. But the sorry assed people I am angry about just shrugged their responsibity and that I took the cats with resistance but feel responsible for their well being is my ACTION.

I feel outraged that human beings can live so childishly gathering drama and spreading discomfort because they refuse to take repsonsibility for their own mess. I feel no compassion right now.

So how do I manage this situation in the game of my life. Even while I feel irritated extremely, there is another sense that I just need to adjust my response EVEN though I FEEL PISSED> This is the game. My game IS MINE> I MOVE this week in my game. This is a thought I have even when obscessing about my ire.

Ranting feels good.

[Emil El Zapato]

I've heard stories like this before...but you're right...people can be callous and irresponsible. I say your rant is very justified...

[enjoy being]

Shivafari. 2010

And Shiva dances faster,
The storms mistaken,
by some,
for now,
The laughter has already begun.
The mind, the wind, the sun.
Jah is mighty,
they free their feet,
they feel the warmth,
understand its song.
So be true,
and naught be wrong.
Fear not the storm,
for it caresses,
and defines thine will.

Old rant.

[Maggie]

This is another rant. This game I am playing seems to be involved with a huge question of what is "health". I want to play on the far reaches of what I think the meaning of health IS. IMO health is a state where the human has started working with his/her larger context and accepts a natural constant refreshment of the body. Health is IMO when we each take repsonsibility for our connection to our larger context of truth and reflect a more elegant state of refinement IN OUR BODY> health is IMO a beauty state.

So I am sickened and feel nauseated when I hear people invoke sorriness and what feels ugly to me. I hate it when people die because I can't believe that the manner of death I have been seeing looks beautiful. Disappearing in a ball of light would IMO be beautiful. So I do THINK that this game I am playing is about stretching the opinion of how we achieve our state of natural perfecting by way of attention to being in divinity. This is the route to health IMO.

Claiming victim status of every kind nauseates me. I am angry that my world still has what I dslike in abundance. I want to have a strong and powerful ego that can make good things in my world be apparent. YES< it is what I believe I desire that is important to entertain as I am ego in one aspect. I am desiring to have a MAGIC Game. I want Divine assistance from a Universe that can only say YES> So i need to be careful what i intend and be conscious.

I suspect I am IN one very fine experience of exploring matter. My tapped in supply (Abraham's word) is in my hands and I am creating a life here.. This is PLAY WORLD and it could be delightful.

Abraham is a source of reminder that our emotional tone and thoughts reverberate. I felt so angry earlier and not now. So we can change our feeling and THAT IMO is the trickiness of the game. feeling needs to come form the inside out as our feeling.

What I am still reverberating to as I encounter other beings is being TOO EMPATHIC. I feel their feelings and then I get mad about the feelings when I SHOULD just have my own feelings that I generate. But this is part of the game too... that one has abilities like feeling what others feel (the others are god too) and not knowing it is that joining with them that drives me crazy. If I can feel good, other egos that my ego is triggered by hardly feel irritating.

I am embracing that we do have a reason to mingle with people and act and play as deeply in the Leela as possible. BUT my opinion is that I do not understand why one would choose to be at effect in pretense when we can equally pretend to be cause and the Leela playfully allows us that option. Why would someone choose discofort and illness and pain and hatefulness when we can change the program.

Robert Young clued me into a profound truth. Right next to play world is divine world. There in divine world all "problems" are taken and care solves them. God just does it. In play world we are able to do all kinds of things and we all have to do action to have consequence. It is not always pleasant. IMO we go back and forth between these states place. I feel frustration that everyone can't see our responsibility in play world. It COULD be so much more bringing divine principles in its "play".

Instead of needing to preach, I need to do the work. But I still want to shout... Divinity is just a small consciousness step to TAP IN and it widespread connection helps make a different "world". That widespread recognition of AGENCY IN OUR HANDS is what i want to see in the collective. Then we can deal with content.

[Emil El Zapato]

yesssss....

[Maggie]

I've heard stories like this before...but you're right...people can be callous and irresponsible. I say your rant is very justified...

I am sure you have heard stories. Care to rant? Callous and irresponsible is the most infuriating combination for me. It really triggers me to feel rage and spiraling down into a despond is easy. I am historically more of an angry person and this area always was triggering because I think I see people screwing up MY reality, hurting what I care about, hurting ME.

But the cutting edge is knowing they never can do that at all. This is so far up the street in capacity that it cannot be embraced easily. I KNOW this "being at effect" a false belief and yet I keep stumbling over it.

I think I must constantly clear beliefs like this in a purge by in the emotional fire. I need to actively feel different about the idea. I need to forget it. I need a new feeling and a new thought to move out of reacting. It is hard work but feels right. I can rant about it's importance to me. But I also should stop focusing and look at something new.

I will borrow this image form another place as I think rants belong in the fiire... spoken then burned to transmute. everyone can burn rants... even others' we hear... we are all god.

Purification feels good by acknowledging my own opinion and then burning its importance.

https://www.minds.com/fs/v1/thumbnail/833519021392162816

[Maggie]

Shivafari. 2010

And Shiva dances faster,
The storms mistaken,
by some,
for now,
The laughter has already begun.
The mind, the wind, the sun.
Jah is mighty,
they free their feet,
they feel the warmth,
understand its song.
So be true,
and naught be wrong.
Fear not the storm,
for it caresses,
and defines thine will.

Old rant.

Thank you kindly for sharing your caressing storm rant.

[Maggie]

I want to address a previous rant

"The alt community is dying because it never made the leap from reaction to actually being the vangaurd. As with all attempts to respond to the status quo, the alt community agreed that something was wrong and something else is wrong and something else and something else and someething..some...thing

There will NEVER be an alternative that does not flip to the alternative and then another alternative.
If the basis is war then peace then war then peace because each state failed to provide what some agreed they wanted....
SO BE THE COIN THAT FLIPS.

The alternative community is dead. Long Live the LIVING which needs no alternative.
That LIFE being born will never be seen on a coin.

This is my rant obviously but I feel really good spouting it. Thanks for the opportunity."

I ranted about being reactionary. We each know how much power we have over our reactivity. So what if I react once... but why should I let myself be caught again? And can't I learn from what i see others doing. Is it enough to grok it and stop talking and claiming and keep searching further. IMO I need to learn to stop repeating the stories.

To know, to will, to to dare, TO KEEP SILENT is a great maxim IMO.

I can say something and write it but if I don't burn the subject matter and move on, I'll keep acting the same way. It scares me to know how likely repetition may be. I am aiming at the promotion of a forward thrust where we stop repeating ourselves. If it was said or done once, that should be enough. At least that is my goal.

[Maggie]

Neil Kramer rants wonderfully....

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And a whole different rant.
The point being a rant is the expression of where we are coming from.
That is why I am encouraging us all to do that action of sharing what is groping.
It is particularly important for the ranter and listening honors the ranter but we should not take it as a "teaching" form some superior source.

-wRZRHLsDso

[enjoy being]

That is a fair comment maggie. Well a fair comment I understand. But yes the reaction in me wants to help shape the image you are painting, but it is not necessarily for me to do such a thing. Yet again, sometimes contributions are perfect.

That would be my contibution to the idea of silence and stemming of repetition.
That finding the balance of when to contribute and when to be silent would be good. Silence can be comfortable, or it can lead to distortion.
such a fruit salad of energies when one will choose to translate silence to suit themselves. Sometimes silence allows distortions to continue in the shadows. But sometimes it keeps conflict from distorting the light.
Back to knowing self and being capable in the emotions to be able to do and be the things which are the right vibration of action not interferred with by ego.

People can also find themselves inhabiting some space between where they become passive aggressive and hide their barbs in their words and silences. I see that a lot in certain types. But some of what I see is likely me projecting what it appears like.
We have to sort of give people a break for their poor abilities to perfectly communicate. We all fail in some way or other usually.
Personally, I quite like to use words that might trigger people sometimes, just to help us all practice. But try to do it in a way where it is humourous.

[enjoy being]

Neil Kramer rants wonderfully....

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This is accurate and observable.

nicely crammed so far. Thanks for the share.

Trauma - a record being scratched. There's your 'repeat' notion.
Following the detours and scars again and again. Going over the same ground.

[enjoy being]

And a whole different rant.
The point being a rant is the expression of where we are coming from.
That is why I am encouraging us all to do that action of sharing what is groping.
It is particularly important for the ranter and listening honors the ranter but we should not take it as a "teaching" form some superior source.

Exactly. Couldn't agree more. ohh where's that other passage about creating a space to be heard...

A common ritual at gatherings is the use of the Tokutoku, or talking stick. Whoever holds the stick can speak whatever they want for however long they want. Holding the stick creates the space for everyone hearing each other. This is the prerequisite for peace. Everyone needs to have a say, and what everyone has to say needs to be validated, not necessarily be agreed with, but heard. In spaciousness there is place for everyone. There is no time pressure: “it takes as long as it takes.”
from same page..

I can only work in a healing way with someone when I care for them, feel genuine love, unconditional love, Aroha. This means, to accept them the way they are. Acceptance creates the space for this person to unfold, for healing to occur. It is necessary to help heal any internalised fights.
Time to repost this video too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X_vN-NNBns


Oh, and I am enjoying things being spoken about in the Anita Moorjani interview too

[Emil El Zapato]

I am sure you have heard stories. Care to rant? Callous and irresponsible is the most infuriating combination for me. It really triggers me to feel rage and spiraling down into a despond is easy. I am historically more of an angry person and this area always was triggering because I think I see people screwing up MY reality, hurting what I care about, hurting ME.

But the cutting edge is knowing they never can do that at all. This is so far up the street in capacity that it cannot be embraced easily. I KNOW this "being at effect" a false belief and yet I keep stumbling over it.

I think I must constantly clear beliefs like this in a purge by in the emotional fire. I need to actively feel different about the idea. I need to forget it. I need a new feeling and a new thought to move out of reacting. It is hard work but feels right. I can rant about it's importance to me. But I also should stop focusing and look at something new.

I will borrow this image form another place as I think rants belong in the fiire... spoken then burned to transmute. everyone can burn rants... even others' we hear... we are all god.

Purification feels good by acknowledging my own opinion and then burning its importance.

https://www.minds.com/fs/v1/thumbnail/833519021392162816

I agree, just burn everything to a cinder....

Hi Maggie, The stories I heard were about me...I'm still making amends for all my youthful indiscretions, my misspent youth, and my misdirected attitude... :)

[Dumpster Diver]

...well, since we keep 2nd critters as “pets” the 4th density entities are allowed to keep us 3rd density critters as pets. Think about it.

Karma baby...

[Maggie]

...well, since we keep 2nd critters as “pets” the 4th density entities are allowed to keep us 3rd density critters as pets. Think about it.

Karma baby...

Thanks DD.
I appreciate your mini rant ... and you.

Ranting again as it is so enjoyable.

I have thought much the same in a way. Fair play goes for me like the Golden Rule and gets personal... so if I am eating animals, I am declaring that this is also OK for me, to be "eaten" in various ways.

IMO "keeping pets" is way different than living with other beings.... and I practice being with other beings who are friends. Impassioned I am about friendship being the highest form of ethics. We are learning how to be firend and kin with all life.

I do agree that it does all go back to "karma". HOWEVER perhaps there is also a new twist... redemption via forgiving self and others? And acting like a changed being not just giving lip. That is what I see in the Christ message in part... how to live beyond the old ways?

Rants have a reputation but IMO all the declarations from the media like speaking and writing in videos and books, articles ad lectures are rantish. They are all POV which cannot be globally true. Only principles are true and lie under content not in it. IMO (MO is my responsibility) we are constantly triggered by our own opinions not being held by others as universal but hey, that is A OK.

I looked up rant and found some choice words.
speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way,
fulminate, go on, hold forth, vociferate, sound off, spout, pontificate, bluster, declaim;
tirade, diatribe, broadside; literary philippic (a bitter attack or denunciation, especially a verbal one).
harangue, lecture, attack, onslaught, denunciation, rant, polemic, broadside, fulmination, condemnation, criticism, censure; informal blast

[enjoy being]

By watching things such as "The Secret Life of the Dog", one will find that all domestic dogs are created via breeding and selection. The dogs have also adapted within these constructs to be a companion for survival. Therefore the notion of looking after domestic animals is definitely different to living with other beings in that the relationship is symbiotic to some extents and is also formed by things such as via responsibilities to the animal which has had its 'nature' altered.


I just edited this post to correct the title of the documentary mentioned, as there is a few with similar titles and I had typed a title halfway between them both haha.

[Maggie]

By watching things such as "The Secret Life of Dogs", one will find that all domestic dogs are created via breeding and selection. The dogs have also adapted within these constructs to be a companion for survival. Therefore the notion of looking after domestic animals is definately different to living with other beings in that the relationship is symbiotic to some extents and is also formed by things such as via responsibilities to the animal which has had its 'nature' altered.

Dogs are very happy to be familiar to us and accept us humans as pack leaders. Cats are very willing to accept some of us as family. They are less eager and yet are very emotionally connected. Did you hear the story of the elephants who all spontaneously arrived to honor their human friend who died? that story really touched me.



For 12 hours, two herds of wild South African elephants slowly made their way through the Zululand bush until they reached the house of late author Lawrence Anthony, the conservationist who saved their lives.
The formerly violent, rogue elephants, destined to be shot a few years ago as pests, were rescued and rehabilitated by Anthony, who had grown up in the bush and was known as the “Elephant Whisperer.”

For two days the herds loitered at Anthony’s rural compound on the vast Thula Thula game reserve in the South African KwaZulu – to say good-bye to the man they loved. But how did they know he had died March 7?

Known for his unique ability to calm traumatized elephants, Anthony had become a legend. He is the author of three books, Baghdad Ark, detailing his efforts to rescue the animals at Baghdad Zoo during the Iraqi war, the forthcoming The Last Rhinos, and his bestselling The Elephant Whisperer.

There are two elephant herds at Thula Thula. According to his son Dylan, both arrived at the Anthony family compound shortly after Anthony’s death.

“They had not visited the house for a year and a half and it must have taken them about 12 hours to make the journey,” Dylan is quoted in various local news accounts. “The first herd arrived on Sunday and the second herd, a day later. They all hung around for about two days before making their way back into the bush.”

Elephants have long been known to mourn their dead. In India, baby elephants often are raised with a boy who will be their lifelong “mahout.” The pair develop legendary bonds – and it is not uncommon for one to waste away without a will to live after the death of the other.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/news/files/2012/03/lawrence-anthony-tribute.jpg
A line of elephants approaching the Anthony house (Photo courtesy of the Anthony family)

But these are wild elephants in the 21st century, not some Rudyard Kipling novel.

The first herd to arrive at Thula Thula several years ago were violent. They hated humans. Anthony found himself fighting a desperate battle for their survival and their trust, which he detailed in The Elephant Whisperer:

“It was 4:45 a.m. and I was standing in front of Nana, an enraged wild elephant, pleading with her in desperation. Both our lives depended on it. The only thing separating us was an 8,000-volt electric fence that she was preparing to flatten and make her escape.

“Nana, the matriarch of her herd, tensed her enormous frame and flared her ears.

“’Don’t do it, Nana,’ I said, as calmly as I could. She stood there, motionless but tense. The rest of the herd froze.

“’This is your home now,’ I continued. ‘Please don’t do it, girl.’

I felt her eyes boring into me.

“’They’ll kill you all if you break out. This is your home now. You have no need to run any more.’

“Suddenly, the absurdity of the situation struck me,” Anthony writes. “Here I was in pitch darkness, talking to a wild female elephant with a baby, the most dangerous possible combination, as if we were having a friendly chat. But I meant every word. ‘You will all die if you go. Stay here. I will be here with you and it’s a good place.’

“She took another step forward. I could see her tense up again, preparing to snap the electric wire and be out, the rest of the herd smashing after her in a flash.

“I was in their path, and would only have seconds to scramble out of their way and climb the nearest tree. I wondered if I would be fast enough to avoid being trampled. Possibly not.

“Then something happened between Nana and me, some tiny spark of recognition, flaring for the briefest of moments. Then it was gone. Nana turned and melted into the bush. The rest of the herd followed. I couldn’t explain what had happened between us, but it gave me the
first glimmer of hope since the elephants had first thundered into my life.” http://www.beliefnet.com/inspiration/home-page-news-and-views/wild-elephants-mourn-death-of-famed-elephant-whisperer.aspx

[enjoy being]

Id probably trade everything to be a mahout. I feel like I already have been a few times. Funny you should post that, thanks.

[enjoy being]

There's many techniques of course, but it is interesting to note a contrast of method in the theory of "breathing" between two examples.

One has the person sitting and meditating, breathing in old positivity and exhaling new negativity. The other, has the opposite, where the subject sits and breathes in old negativity and exhales new positivity.
Often it seems the first place an initiate stops is at the first example, and many just become consumers of positivity, never thinking about transmuting a bit back the other way. Is it a sign of their fears and fragility? The clutch of the survivor to the saviour where the rescue team gets clawed and clambered over?
This is why I do not take too much notice of so called sages and priests, their selfish fears can consume you if you get too close without awareness of their possible plight.

[Maggie]

Often it seems the first place an initiate stops is at the first example, and many just become consumers of positivity

For several years I was in a dark night. My energy was quite heavy and I completely agreed with being just as low as I was and not trying to change it but to let it be and learn how to feel I was not alone. There was a presence with me. Sincerely I wanted to feel beloved by God. It was that I wanted to love myself no matter what state I was in. I did not want to pretend or be superficial. I knew I could be genuinely happy even when sad... paradoxically.

Now I am no longer in the tunnel. I take credit for learning to love myself and I feel a PRESENCE with me. Now I am much more youthful and learning to be playful.

I am so much lighter and yet I am refusing to be false to me as I understand that to be on any given day. I WILL to be an expression of my highest knowing of my being and The Presence is uncaring for what I am acting out. It's truly all good when one feels beloved.

I used to play this over and over on my CD player. I would dance and weep. I love this music like my very old friend.

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[enjoy being]

I can relate to that, a good while of my youth being spent captured by myself and the woes I carried. And I learned to run with a limp, thinking not to remove the stones from my shoes. When eventually it caught up with me I was still only young, and the pit was deeper than before. Finding out that much of the oddness I felt towards the ways of the world around me was justified and sane, begun a climb.

This was my song, sometimes left repeating for a few days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_bZDMGbLi8

[Dumpster Diver]

By watching things such as "The Secret Life of Dogs", one will find that all domestic dogs are created via breeding and selection. The dogs have also adapted within these constructs to be a companion for survival. Therefore the notion of looking after domestic animals is definately different to living with other beings in that the relationship is symbiotic to some extents and is also formed by things such as via responsibilities to the animal which has had its 'nature' altered.

We “domesticated” dogs, i.e. captured them, fed them, bred them, and then they, in turn, became subject to a sort of Stockholm syndrome. Cats as well. Just because the animals now seem to go along with it, does not mean it is correct.

Our keepers are doing the same thing to us...

[enjoy being]

The secret life of dogs is really interesting. There's a fox breeding experiment that has been going for 50 years. They have just been selecting and separating the aggresive ones from the more placid ones and interbreeding them. The kennels with the aggresive ones have pointy upright ears and straight droopy tails, and of course they snarl and his and are unapproachable. The placid selections have cute floppy ears and curly tails and they smile and are completely handle-able. Are those traits the chicken or the egg? Becoming more endearing to humans for survival?
It goes into how smart they are and test shows them as far smarter than a chimp. They also pick up on the black and white dots or human eyes and have worked out how to follow a humans eyes. Like if you keep your head still and look at them then move your eyes to the side, they will look where you are looking. Matter of if they have learned to be savy to be useful to remain fed, or if they have always been skilled in ways other animalds arent.

[Maggie]

We “domesticated” dogs, i.e. captured them, fed them, bred them, and then they, in turn, became subject to a sort of Stockholm syndrome. Cats as well. Just because the animals now seem to go along with it, does not mean it is correct.

Our keepers are doing the same thing to us...

Epigenetics is a POV that shows how life adapts to environment. In the POV I understand of epigenetics there is an environmental control of genetics. I think that dogs domesticated and that humans too are domesticated and cats are somesticated. Are "keepers" involved? I don't know? We too are a community in the body and have some conscious control over the community so maybe its true at all levels?

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[enjoy being]

https://vimeo.com/26671405
This was the one, I realised there is a BBC one called The secret life of dogs as well.

[Elen]

https://vimeo.com/26671405
This was the one, I realised there is a BBC one called The secret life of dogs as well.

It's not on YouTube nor on the BBC web-site. Found this and hope it will embed...


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3kic8n

Which it did not, But hopefully the link will work.

[enjoy being]

It's not on YouTube nor on the BBC web-site. Found this and hope it will embed...


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3kic8n

Which it did not, But hopefully the link will work.

Hi Elen, yeah that is not it. The vimeo one I linked is the right one. Note the difference in title is important. The secret life of the dog vs The secret lives of dogs.
There is a dailymotion version of The secret life of the dog however, but I just left the vimeo one up, if you click the vimeo button on the private video embed it will take you to the vimeo site and it can still be watched.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2adqfh ...is the dailymotion version but the resolution is not as good as the vimeo one.

I hope people watch this as it will definitely make a few things regards our relationship with dogs and domestication clear. It is a GREAT documentary!

[Elen]

Hi Elen, yeah that is not it. The vimeo one I linked is the right one. Note the difference in title is important. The secret life of the dog vs The secret lives of dogs.
There is a dailymotion version of The secret life of the dog however, but I just left the vimeo one up, if you click the vimeo button on the private video embed it will take you to the vimeo site and it can still be watched.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2adqfh ...is the dailymotion version but the resolution is not as good as the vimeo one.

I hope people watch this as it will definitely make a few things regards our relationship with dogs and domestication clear. It is a GREAT documentary!

Thanks for the clarification...;)

[enjoy being]

Thanks for the clarification...;)

I almost think the confusion of titles is there to stop people watching the good one. haha

[Elen]

I almost think the confusion of titles is there to stop people watching the good one. haha

Well I'm watching now...and it is really good so far! ;)

[Aianawa]

Pointing this out because i seen it, Wayseer you are, now, Nothing, very obvious of late but for me was always there, seen. I observe not judge this, of last 6 moons especially, thankyou for being becoming you.



There's many techniques of course, but it is interesting to note a contrast of method in the theory of "breathing" between two examples.

One has the person sitting and meditating, breathing in old positivity and exhaling new negativity. The other, has the opposite, where the subject sits and breathes in old negativity and exhales new positivity.
Often it seems the first place an initiate stops is at the first example, and many just become consumers of positivity, never thinking about transmuting a bit back the other way. Is it a sign of their fears and fragility? The clutch of the survivor to the saviour where the rescue team gets clawed and clambered over?
This is why I do not take too much notice of so called sages and priests, their selfish fears can consume you if you get too close without awareness of their possible plight.

[enjoy being]

Thank you for your appreciation. Though, you make me blush.
I had sensed a suspicion or some such thing of me, from you, when I first arrived here. Maybe that's what it was instead!
We all have our parts to add eh, and there are times to do so and times to gather ones thoughts.

[Aianawa]

We will meet.

[Maggie]

Hi Elen, yeah that is not it. The vimeo one I linked is the right one. Note the difference in title is important. The secret life of the dog vs The secret lives of dogs.
There is a dailymotion version of The secret life of the dog however, but I just left the vimeo one up, if you click the vimeo button on the private video embed it will take you to the vimeo site and it can still be watched.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2adqfh ...is the dailymotion version but the resolution is not as good as the vimeo one.

I hope people watch this as it will definitely make a few things regards our relationship with dogs and domestication clear. It is a GREAT documentary!

I could not access the links for some reason. This is what I found on vimeo

https://vimeo.com/26671405

"Wayseer you are, now, Nothing"


We will meet.

How does one meet Nothing? Without Something to meet does meeting happen?
I'd like to meet you all too. That would be something.

[Elen]

Well I'm watching now...and it is really good so far! ;)

That is soooo interesting, the wolves and dogs, the foxes showing signs of also being like dogs when domesticated. This is showing a documentary that you'll never see elsewhere. Recommended watching here. :D

[Maggie]

That is soooo interesting, the wolves and dogs, the foxes showing signs of also being like dogs when domesticated. This is showing a documentary that you'll never see elsewhere. Recommended watching here. :D

I feel like I am having a mandela effect as every video I open is from the BBC and I thought Nothing said its not the BBC? This one is also about wolves and the way oxytocin hormone is involved in our feelings.....

Is this it?


https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/secret-life-dog/

[enjoy being]

That is soooo interesting, the wolves and dogs, the foxes showing signs of also being like dogs when domesticated. This is showing a documentary that you'll never see elsewhere. Recommended watching here. :D

Glad you watched it, it is packed with things eh and the research has covered so many bases to really make the picture clear.


I could not access the links for some reason. This is what I found on vimeo

https://vimeo.com/26671405

"That one is the correct one also". -Nothing

"Wayseer you are, now, Nothing"



How does one meet Nothing? Without Something to meet does meeting happen?
I'd like to meet you all too. That would be something.

Haha very clever!


I feel like I am having a mandela effect as every video I open is from the BBC and I thought Nothing said its not the BBC? This one is also about wolves and the way oxytocin hormone is involved in our feelings.....

Is this it?

Yes that is it as well, that is the vimeo one embedded in a web page I think I discovered. Sorry I was a bit confused too and then didn't type my way out of that confusion well enough, meaning they were both BBC, both with very similar names, but with different content. It seems the other one comes up over top of The Secret Life of the Dog. Maybe the difference in title is the good one is BBC Horizon?

[enjoy being]

I'd like to meet you all too. That would be something.

It would be quite something, in my world, to meet you all here, at this "sentinel guarding the past, the present and the future".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3VbLLpdWD8

There's info in the video details which I don't give in the narration.
One day maybe I will remake a proper video explaining out in the open, the significance of this site, which some might have read about in the NZ history thread.

[Maggie]

It would be quite something, in my world, to meet you all here, at this "sentinel guarding the past, the present and the future".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3VbLLpdWD8

There's info in the video details which I don't give in the narration.
One day maybe I will remake a proper video explaining out in the open, the significance of this site, which some might have read about in the NZ history thread.

What a lush place you shared!

I also live in a lush place on earth. I live in the area of the southern tip of the Appalachian Mountain chain. Where I live, it is a plateau ringed by eroded mountains. I think this area has amazing earth energy. Gosh could I rant about the people whose ancestry is of the white interlopers. There is a feeling of being haunted hung around the populace.

Once I heard a story that seemed "right". The story is that the shaman lineage who hid themselves remained in an area called "Snow Bird". The rage of the people was channeled into a curse on all the settlers taking the people's place. Supposdly the curse is consistently renewed and each new generation is cursed. Nothing seems to flourish except craven concerns, even in religion which builds so many churches here the souls are shriviled. This dwarfing of thriving exists despite the wild beauty and nature of a rainforest with so much life.

The old old ones who lived here disappeared but some of their children hold their tribal power. I have not tried to go to Snowbird. there is sort of a repelling sense about that community. I have no reason to go there...it would be just as a tourist. but I imagine a story where a young woman travels to Snow Bird as a teacher. It is an archetypal tale. This woman becomes one with the old one's teaching. She brings the synchronistic CHANGE which ripples all around her.

The young woman came to leran and she DID learn and in turn she taught. Teacher and learners PROFOUNDLY altered the intention of all concerned. It was made clear that FORGIVENESS must be experienced Universally for there to be Creator's plan born on earth.

The young woman became a memeber of a family. She returned to the city. But she had to speak and her manner was so TRUE that she was heard. She carries a message that people are hungry to know.and several interesting synchronicities lead to her being heard. The message is of how a curse has been lifted. The punishment lasted long enough. All must be for given and grief and pain transmuted.

Now the elders will bless


A little known mind force of viscious capacities has been transmuted.... the creation of life as a story of tragedy. The realization began when people suddenly could see in the mind's eye all the personal ramifications of an action in a flash of knowing. More and more people just chose to follow stories leading to knowing of the good. It was just natural.

The message that is so profound and earth shaking is that we will be easily able to FEEL loved enough to break the shell. This is just plain happening. The blessings are unfolding of the GOOD plan. It is ripe to pick. How willwe know? We will FEEL enveloped in love. So EVERYONE starts understanding what one another means when they say that vibrate in the various shades of earth color...some less pleasant BUT enveloped in love. The mind directs the display of love. We each are free to have what we choose.

That Choice is so malleable that we need not ever fear being stuck. Love is constantly flowing and shaping and so the mind may wander to new places IF we FORGIVE the past. That heart felt forgiveness is opening the doors to love flowing ever more in the world so the vistas get so much MORE colorful.

That is my story tonight and I am sticking to it tonight. Is love the pink moon that will get us all? Yes, it's destined in this Universeof mine.

aXnfhnCoOyo

I saw it written and I saw it say
Pink moon is on its way
And none of you stand so tall
Pink moon gonna get you all
It's a pink moon
It's a pink, pink, pink, pink, pink moon.

[enjoy being]

Such beauty.
Those places not far away even when spread across the planet.
Te Whiti, the name of a great prophet of peace, who inspired Gandhi.
Yet in this same land, at the other side of this fractallic, crystal mountain, were great warriors and great pains.
One of which also laid a curse on the bloodline of those who trespassed and choked their ancestor.
A curse which can be seen in the fates of many who attempted to shelter under that side of the mountain.
Brutefulness and meatheadedness in the hearts of those who held on to their families ways.
Bad luck and ruin to others who may have been innocent yet for turning a blind eye.
Both the cursed and the cursers being in the wrong.
For some reason I have ancestors from the edges of both those groups, AND from those who were before all of them. I too believe forgiveness must come in the mixing of red and white and black to form a harmonious pattern that appears as one colour.

[Maggie]

Such beauty.
Those places not far away even when spread across the planet.
Te Whiti, the name of a great prophet of peace, who inspired Gandhi.
Yet in this same land, at the other side of this fractallic, crystal mountain, were great warriors and great pains.
One of which also laid a curse on the bloodline of those who trespassed and choked their ancestor.
A curse which can be seen in the fates of many who attempted to shelter under that side of the mountain.
Brutefulness and meatheadedness in the hearts of those who held on to their families ways.
Bad luck and ruin to others who may have been innocent yet for turning a blind eye.
Both the cursed and the cursers being in the wrong.
For some reason I have ancestors from the edges of both those groups, AND from those who were before all of them. I too believe forgiveness must come in the mixing of red and white and black to form a harmonious pattern that appears as one colour.

I being very woowoo as to experience anticipate that we are not satisfied until we have been done and had our complete FILL of the ,matrix "life". I feel a bit no no about guru's of what to do to get OFF the "planet". this makes me laugh so hard because the magic is upwelling in every nook and cranny and quantity is different than quantity.

The cynics and naysayers can spout all they like about the paltry offerings of "life". If they are wrong, the delusion is seen in time. Time being circular, whoever is less than satisfied can spiral around and around. So IMO there is no such fear as being trapped. I am feeling quite in love with my little portal here. IMO everything around me is very vibrant. The issue then is not what is "real" because seriously I can even just sense fake. It takes no extra sensory as fake smells. OK so now I can tell. Why would I even get worried about all the fakery? I see my responsibility lies in constantly choosing real over fake... that is mundane. Now, why would I want to imagine myself at all unhappy when all I need do is just look around and see the real and choose it and follow the path that way.

I have spent lots of energy in fakery I am sure. Maybe I started off recently from the warrior side of life because I used to feel such rage. I wanted someone to be repsonsible and PAY for what i judged . I may not be a very good judge so now no longer a warrior type or wishing to be hierophant, I am looking at an innate quality that I can practice.

Being IN. immersed in my matrix, IN love.
That is my passion OOOO does it feel really wonderful.
Now I seek being the friend and lover to every appearance in my sphere of reality.

I feel plugged in often and happy often and best of all satisfied.

I can FEEL what it would feel like to be living in the light though I constantly blink off. Not to worry... the resonance is in me and I can call it back. That IMO IS the biggest point... we are constantly having opportunities to feel what is real and therefore the landscape gets less garish like Disney land and more like the sacred grove.....

Now I feel an upwelling of beauty while living on the world that others seem to have going.

[enjoy being]

Those words are appreciated and heard Maggie.
Thank you for cutting through the grease and grime and being here now to be witness to yourself. I know your words well, it becomes a much lighter journey not carrying books of all that you wish to remember, knowing new stories and words can be plucked from anything around you.
I see your resolve. The times past understood too, protecting that flame which now has become uncrushable therefore you can permit it to be seen, especially by yourself. For at times we can be our own worst enemies.

[Maggie]

Those words are appreciated and heard Maggie.
Thank you for cutting through the grease and grime and being here now to be witness to yourself. I know your words well, it becomes a much lighter journey not carrying books of all that you wish to remember, knowing new stories and words can be plucked from anything around you.
I see your resolve. The times past understood too, protecting that flame which now has become uncrushable therefore you can permit it to be seen, especially by yourself. For at times we can be our own worst enemies.

Thanks very much for your gift sharing.

hummmmm....... I love the mythic sound of this rant "that the journey is just beginning". I wonder about the practices moving into personal consciousness. OOB experiencers like William Buhlman clearly speak to a reality based on principles that transcend content. I think the same principles are work in our mundane story.

What you said about "For at times we can be our own worst enemies." I agree that we are constantly refining how we agree to treat one another and ourselves as ethical beings. If we have a etheric body that is very physical, IMO the willingness to release IGNORANCE that we are CONFINED is BASIC. IMO we are simply bound to beliefs. A high inner ethic knows that to encourage the belief of our limitations is in itself convincing us to believe enough to make it real.

I think the statement "For at times we can be our own worst enemies." could be seen as a negative indictment. But how much we can just be our own best friend may be through forgiving the past. If we forgive where we have been, embrace where we are and just enjoy being here, imo we access a fine magic state. THEN get a lot of great confirmation about who we are, what we are and where we are going.

IMO it's so simple...relax about the journey and let go of a constant fear that something Terrible is about to happen. I think we will explore more and more and discover and experience for ourselves that paranoia and all that goes with that BRINGS It In to form... likewise FRIENDSHIP>brings friends.

IMO there is a whole exceptional magic by many means. In waking dream life like in OBE, OUR observation and filters produce evidence.

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[enjoy being]

Oh, that is timely, I may have to watch that on my other device that has a bit of bandwidth as recent times have seen a lot of 'lucid' dreaming, which I must say has been pretty blissful and a perspective on such things would be useful it seems by this post.


As a response to your words, our observation of ourselves and the varying states of being aware of ourselves, can be where we might edit our selves, and that can be where we might be our worst enemies, by judging and restricting, like you say.
Our expectations as we watch for results of our actions, all necessary as part of awareness. But fear and paranoia and negative pull, in excess, along with the opposite disturbs balance?

For some time my attitude has been trying to be mindful of expectations and resolve. I still fail.
But the main points being..
1..in knowing ones dexterity of thought. Knowing that you have thought your way out of issues before, and that there is always a silver lining and a thorn to be found. Once that has been practised enough, one can almost just stop before even being drawn into things and choose either to believe in the negative or the positive!
2..realising that our expectations for outcomes are not always the real purpose of the moment. This is related to the search for the silver lining, and realising that sometimes it is not possible to find it because of our expectations of what it is we are looking for. Like, I might spend time trying to get a point across, and then feel like I failed, or be upset that it felt like it fell on deaf ears, yet for all I know, it was something completely obscure that someone you never saw quietly noted. It is fun to expect that sort of thing. That the universe moves through us all and we really are not the unmoved movers behind our roles, and more often than not, the 'unknowing participant' is the most powerful aspect of the music we can make and it is genuine and heart felt by the receiver for they found it themselves without it being a case of trickery.
When it is like that, all that needs to be, is ones integrity and intent to harmonise with what is good. Yet, sometimes we might recite the adage regards the road to hell being paved with good intentions. And this might be true in different ways. When the person is out of centredness and lets their personal fears back in etc etc, but it can also be a case perhaps where again, a perfect result still came from what one judges as error.

There is the short game and the long game. Again, it seems pointless within reason to keep checking behind for success and results when it is more expedient to know the good is being arranged without needing to be witnessed, and in the long game, is one going to stop their journey and wait to see the result appear in the distance?

It is an honour to be understood, but so much more gets catalysed than what we see huh? So we enter into those affirmations of when you do things with joy and love, the fruits will be appreciated and the product will be superior. And nothing else matters.
I can certainly be a hypocrite because I say things which I am not a master of, but there is a strange thing with that word.
I coined for myself to digest this examination of self, the idea of benevolent hypocrisy. Or that without hypocrisy as an action, no one would be able to change.

[Maggie]

1..in knowing ones dexterity of thought. Knowing that you have thought your way out of issues before, and that there is always a silver lining and a thorn to be found. Once that has been practised enough, one can almost just stop before even being drawn into things and choose either to believe in the negative or the positive!
2..realising that our expectations for outcomes are not always the real purpose of the moment. This is related to the search for the silver lining, and realising that sometimes it is not possible to find it because of our expectations of what it is we are looking for. Like, I might spend time trying to get a point across, and then feel like I failed, or be upset that it felt like it fell on deaf ears, yet for all I know, it was something completely obscure that someone you never saw quietly noted. It is fun to expect that sort of thing. That the universe moves through us all and we really are not the unmoved movers behind our roles, and more often than not, the 'unknowing participant' is the most powerful aspect of the music we can make and it is genuine and heart felt by the receiver for they found it themselves without it being a case of trickery.
When it is like that, all that needs to be, is ones integrity and intent to harmonise with what is good. Yet, sometimes we might recite the adage regards the road to hell being paved with good intentions. And this might be true in different ways. When the person is out of centredness and lets their personal fears back in etc etc, but it can also be a case perhaps where again, a perfect result still came from what one judges as error.

There is the short game and the long game. Again, it seems pointless within reason to keep checking behind for success and results when it is more expedient to know the good is being arranged without needing to be witnessed, and in the long game, is one going to stop their journey and wait to see the result appear in the distance?

It is an honour to be understood, but so much more gets catalysed than what we see huh? So we enter into those affirmations of when you do things with joy and love, the fruits will be appreciated and the product will be superior. And nothing else matters.
I can certainly be a hypocrite because I say things which I am not a master of, but there is a strange thing with that word.
I coined for myself to digest this examination of self, the idea of benevolent hypocrisy. Or that without hypocrisy as an action, no one would be able to change.

It seems that commerce is still an integralpart of reality at this time. One of the problems with commerce is that it is not the stated intention but the REAL intention that is communicated like memes in the buying and selling.

For instance it was in Forbes that in the illness care industry, cures are antithetical to the real intention of continued money income form sick people. I already knew that to be probable. All the signs point to stringing people along at the very least to do care that could easily be CURED by nature. That is MY bias.

In commerce I am not willing to participate in a model that needs people to feel ill. I suspect that people mostly feel ill (dis-eased) long before they have the fatal end. I used to be a nurse and left that stage for the reason that nurses have become hand maids to this very slickly packaged product of stringing people along. All the while the people feel ill they think they need this care.

In my model of commerce, it suddenly became clear that I can go along with beauty products. That is because though people may not feel beautiful enough, they are playing with self appreciation. I could get behind selling what I know about in the line of the skin and to help celebrate it's beauty.

I can get behind rituals of beauty where the water and sea salt and oil and essences are immersing the skin. I love bathing and bath products. Bathing is an ancient ritual but it is neglected by many. I could dell people on baths as I believe in them without any qualm.

It is weirdly true that we have the appearance of an aquatic ancestry. What I know is that the skin is an organ that takes in minerals and excretes waste products. That is a selective boundary membrane. The skin can take in magnesium for instance One study I read (that was not double blind), bathing in magnesium chloride did increase blood magneium.

I am very certain that appropriate bathing is efficient to help detox. IMO real beauty is shining clean... a clarity that is needing no coverage. That is our birth appearance and only programming disturbed that illuminated visage of human SKIN. Is the baby glow biophosphorescent. Don't we feel that way again when really deeply feeling love? When we are at ease love is easier to feel IMO. Bathing signifies so much good IMO.

I will say the physiological manifestations of comfort from baths is about THE most amazing remedy I could imagine. We who love baths look forward to being there. I see it as sacramental as a visible sign of an invisible grace.... that the body is fully empowered to be strong and healthy and beautiful. IMO these rituals are sacramental when they connect us to the source of health and healing. Washing away the sins of the world is energetic but felt in the body as ease and lightness.

Great ideas and great forgiveness can come to the bather.

The warm water, the candles, the scents create an altered state and IMO it is a relaxed opportunity to feel love for oneself. The subconscious builds on these moments of self healing by ritual. It's a great time to praise and to luxuriate in being released of physical tension. Look for the uplift of inner well being and beauty felt inside as being evidence of success.

People have made many claims about special lotopns and potions. It need not be fancy but exotic sensual potions hold a power through people feeling good. That means that ingredients have catalytic influence in bath products.

I bought a web domain Maggismagic.com. I am going to rant (hehe) there and sell my potions. I plan to use the dead sea salt/ ormus live oil principle for scrubs. I plan to use herbs and essences that are perhaps less familiar and very valuable along with sea salt and baking soda and borax and MAYBE even dolomite and mud and ingredients of all kinds. Bath salts ingredients are sensually soothing. Ingredients like dead sea salt, helichrysm oil, oil of oregano, lavender, chamomile, pine, butters and oils, resins like frankinsense and copal, ambergris, flower hydosols, herbs and oils. This does remind me of the silk road.

The tribe I imagine traveled throughout the known world. By caravan or boat a familiar nomadic trading people had everything and lacked for nothing. WE have always been searching for the best beauty products in existence. Spectacular self care may include REGULAR ritual process.

I hope to be up and running very soon. One product I want to sell is a hydrosol of rose, spiked with magnesium chloride and rounded up with a dash of helichrysum. This face/body spray is especially good when hot sunburned and allergic and stuffy.

One other offering is a tick repellent with a incanus cistus and magnesium chloride tea. It is spiked with dead sea salts,cedar wood, pine needle and lemon grass oils.

Foot bath or shower scrub or tub bathsalts all form IMO alchemical opportunities. That is because I do see the body as THE vessal of vessals.

Varieties of kits are made up of intentions for feeling good. I feel very good about the way I have changed the context for myself of potions as a ritual tool versus a "medicine". I don't diss the "permission slip" for many of medicine. I don't wish to give it power in itself. Ritual tool is a reminder and reconciles my own POV and seems coherent to me.

It is not wrong in itself to buy and sell. But I always recall this quote "From what, For what, To what?"

[Elen]

Boy do I feel for you Mr. Nothing...that was tough! :fpalm:

[Elen]

I am sooo glad that you have a friend like that. Great story I have met a couple of healers like that in my time, one in Sydney and one here in the UK. Both helped me when I needed it most...who's to say we're not looked after, hey? And I also know a guy in Norway, that removed a smallpox virus from my heart, due to a vaccine. (Evil stuff), so that's three. :D

[Emil El Zapato]

That's a poignant set of remarks Maggie. Lots of things were nail on head stuff. Diversion and distraction notions. Lead astrayness. I hardly soak in baths even though where I am has one. I want to now and then but have only done so 1% of the time! Its usually showers for me. And I don't go swimming very often at all any more.... hmm
I'm a water person though, water sign even. When ever I am in my home town place of birth I spend a lot of the time at the beach. Barefoot in running water is good! But I don't even do that enough. Luckily here we can just plunge into the wilderness and not be bitten by any predators. Reading you talk about your endeavours was very warm and light. I'm quite receptive to those ideas and the experiencing of 'medicine'. With the adages of what dis-ease is.

Monetarily, you made me recall how, early on in the internet 'conspiracy' media, there was someone? saying the greatest power individuals have over corporations is their consumer-ship. Voting with your patronage and money. Boycotting businesses.
That the bottom line in making a company listen is sales.
It hasn't really worked when people have tried it in recent years. Often a bit of a logistical nightmare. They/we have tried to boycott brands of petrol stations here for instance and there's no unity. Once maybe 8 years ago the truck drivers had a big protest about the manipulation of fuel prices and they had an organized rolling blockage of an arterial CBD freeway or motorway, but many of the public just wanted to be interviewed on TV complaining how it was disrupting their day of rushing around hunting money. Practicality vs Idealism.

I''l have a rant.


I don't really take medicines. Until recently I hadn't had antibiotics for nearly 30 years. I haven't exactly treated my body that well though. Mainly food laziness. Lack of food, excess grease, energy drinks. Smoking. Toxic work environment.
2 years ago this month I gave up smoking and energy drinks. 6 weeks later I lost a front tooth. I gave up smoking by taking up vaping. What a surprise really, losing a tooth I thought was fine. Circumstances meant I went to a dentist while away, and was not made aware that I needed 14 or so pulled out. I was working on a job at the time when I found THAT out so things were quite hectic, but okay. It cost me close to 10k in the end, (with being sold a denture for 1 tooth, before told I was losing more).
The process is a bit of trauma when you are only young for such things. The dentist was/is a good man. So by August that had all happened. My little 19 year old cat to keep me company, she was struggling away and I knew she knew what was going on, and one night had told me she was just going to stick around until the teeth were over.
They got taken out on a Friday morning 8am, the on site denture guy meant it was meant to be a perfect marriage.
I wont drag it out, he somehow supplied a full denture rather than a proper fitted partial one for the top. Which is like yep a really embarrassing mistake. I was sent home with the bottom denture and proceeded to flood the laundry, lose my wallet, start my mouth bleeding, and have to cut a huge clot out of my mouth with scissors.

The denture fellow rang around 2pm, which is when I discovered the missing wallet which I never found for another 7 hours or so, then yep, found where I had thought I had looked. I'm just saying it was all the anaesthetic.

Back to work Monday.

Following Friday, there's a storm and my cat wants to go outside but I had deemed it was way too stormy.
She was a real moody wee thing. Man, so many stories. Anyway she shot me the stare of all stares. She wasn't in the best of health, hyperthyroidism. And had got worse with her 19 year long madness over food. I just felt so bad, that I had locked the cat door, not thinking about our deal.
I let her out and she didn't come back, couldn't find her until the old neighbours were making a bit of funny chatter and I cottoned on to them having found her. It wasn't good, it was ironic. Little girl had her bottom jaw broken in the front and middle. Close enough week to the day. It took me nearly an hour to drive 15 minutes to the vet. And it was all about me... the poor thing, I should have driven fast you know. But yeah, it was about US, she didn't really seem in urgent pain and I valued as much time as could be taken.

Back to work Monday.

The job kept things active and I got used to my teeth, my loss, still not smoking or drinking energy drinks.
When it came to an end it was soon time to go down for the December holidays back home. Before that happened, I ended up getting my car rear ended when I stopped at a pedestrian crossing, and the offending car drove off, of which I ended up not getting any reimbursement to fix, so all in all 2016 was a very expensive year. But the story is actually hardly finished, last year was pretty amazing starting from the changing of the year. But I will come back on that perhaps. One thing would be that I hadn't really planned any of these events, I had just given up smoking on a whim, and run with it. It felt like I was being dished out an intensive course, being given help to go through a process. From December 31st of 2016 I also gave up vaping, as if it were a NY resolution, but that wasn't planned either, I got sick, and couldn't stand the smell of it so, also ran with that wave.
That story I'll hold off with for a bit.. even though it links into some sort of theme.

I can identify with that...yesterday one of my frontal teeth fell out...it was a crown and I thought you put on a crown and your done...hardly...

Hey Nothing,

Thanks for the left-handed cheer up...I'm heading to the dentist right now...in fact, i'm late

This is the way it works in some lands...

You steal my energy, you have to pay it back with some of your own...time is not linear...

just joking, of course, I totally sympathize...

[Maggie]

Boy do I feel for you Mr. Nothing...that was tough! :fpalm:

As I was reading, I was wishing I could give you at that time a warm secure blanketing feeling of love and sense of comfort. Elen said... very tough.

[Maggie]

Cheers for your concerns Elen, but it is fine honestly, plenty of people could make tougher stories and it is not about that, it is a celebratory story, well that is the intention, I am not entirely sure of the message, just putting out, in the general topic of health and well being and anecdotally so some of the words Maggie arranged for us before.............

But, there it is, the greatest miracle I have been involved in. And they say they aren't done yet. Which people should be well happy about I think.

Thanks so much. Miracles are not done yet. that is interetsing about the angry man, the hepatitus and your friend who could help.




This is the way it works in some lands...

You steal my energy, you have to pay it back with some of your own...time is not linear...

just joking, of course, I totally sympathize...

You are joking but that may be true? But maybe its not stealing but dumping that needs repaying?

[Dreamtimer]

Man, I used to be a space cadet like that. I never did anything like that, but I had the potential. I think I was ADD but the teachers (some of them) just said bad things about me when I was little. No one put me on drugs. What should have been done is focused teaching on concentration and awareness skills.

I've had to train myself to be careful and endure laughs from others during the process. The worst is when people just assume you'll always be - space cadet, clumsy, fill-in-the-blank - and don't actually give you a chance to learn, or, God forbid, help you learn.

And so people end up being surprised by me because they thought they knew...whatever they thought they knew.

[Dreamtimer]

Funny you should say that. In times of immediate crisis I have been the one with the cool head while my husband flipped out. I go into a sort of problem-solving mode, plus the instincts. They're paramount.

[Aianawa]

Me too, interesting that, in high octane panic times is interesting the death fear, also.

[Maggie]

I like hearing the voices of Lao and Walter Russell because they were amazing beings.

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[Maggie]

I like hearing the voices of Lao and Walter Russell because they were amazing beings.


Sincerely I expect that each of us is travelling asingular path as part of One great energetic swirl. I am having such a hard time tonight reconciling this seeming fact with what to do about that with my people in my life. how to feel happy with whatever they choose IF I feel involved.

Most of the time I would rather be alone because being a person relating, being with people who feel so different to me, then all sorts of contrasts feel awful.

I have known a woman named Linda since the late 80's.We were not close close hanging out and never saw one another even for years. Then we came back together and I have spent more time with her lately. I do not understand her in many ways. She seems to be a magical person in someways and a complete Muggle in others. That is a judgement I know. I wish I did not have these judgements but I do feel rejecting of stuff people choose.

One big fact is that she has body issues that lead her back again and again to being in pain and seeming to feel desperate. What I would have call a cold,she experienced as a terrible infection and was on antibiotics earlier in the year. I knew that I cannot convince her and have tried to focus where we meet happily. I do want to support her and I want community where we cooperate and she wants that too.

Late Saturday she sent a desperate text saying she was in terrible leg pain making her cry and unable to walk and did I have anything that might help? I said nothing but the offer of massage. That wasn't what she wanted.

Sunday she was still texting about her terrible pain and that she had cried all night. I had done some research and found out about wild lettuce. I have prickly lettuce in my yard and that is serriola versus the best another variety but still a very mild sedative and narcotic. I made some tea and took it to her... maybe it could help. While there she allowed me to do some touch and it was clear her pain was muscle spasm causing nerve related pain down her leg. She said the touch helped a little. I don't know if she drank any tea. But it was clear that she would need the chiropractor.

I did agree to help with transportation because she first wanted to see the MD. Today she saw the MD who gave her some kind of injections. The MD validated she would get help with chiripractic. The one Linda sees was contacted and was kind of booked. But the THING is she already had decided she is too tired today and wanted to go home and see him tomorrow. I think he would have worked her in if she wanted really to see him today.

MY PROBLEM is that this triggered rage in me towards Linda. The rage seems to be about WHY WOULD SOMEONE BE TOO TIRED TO NOT PURSUE WHAT MIGHT HELP. How can someone not seek that which might really help? That is a big general general trigger for me on all fronts.

Seeing the chiropractor today AS WELL as TOMORROW seemed the one possible move that might be healing versus masking pain. She may have a hamstring issue causing the left leg issue. She has spasm in right buttock muscles and I think she was favoring the left side while doing something she does not recall and is unbalanced. I think this because the right leg where she has a knee replacement is swollen all along the leg which shows me it needed favoring when she was injured.

I could not contain my angry reaction and I told her I was pissed about her waiting to see the chiropractor considering how desperate she had been over the weekend.

I did not say but observed I am reminded me of a pattern for her of what seems almost a preference for catastrophe.

I do not want to be involved with this episode and I don't like the pattern. If she wants to do anything, that is fine. My rage is about being witness. I know I am not in control of her. I don't want to control what she does but I don't want to be involved.

It seems that I have a low tolerance for everything except what I like.

Maybe that is Awful of me. I wish I did not feel she wants to pull me in. I feel I am standing near deliberate lack of self regard for what could actually help for a reason she has that is scary?

It feels like this theme is about not really wanting to be well and strong. That is OK if I am not a part of the scene. How CAN I be OK with having friends I see as not aligned with what is important to me and asking me to observe it. I want to feel love and peace and feel strife.It is my problem and it really hurts.

I so wish I could release the old rage of parents who were not on my wave length and the feeling of being helpless embroiled in their mess. In the past I Often thought I saw the way out of the situations others created but they wanted me to agree with their picture. It enrages me and I still feel unable to just let others be and have contact with their seeming self imposed suffering.

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[Maggie]

If you read the last post,this is what i want to say to the people in my life.

Dear Linda,
You are my sister. I feel tenderness for your welfare, I'd like to be intimate with you on a soul level, play with projects on a physical level and love one another so we feelcomfort emotionally. I see myself as an empath. I can feel what others are feeling and if I am close to someone as a freind, I feel stuff but cannot always tell WHO feels it? I have researched empaths and there is a down side to feeling a lot of everything. Pain is a part of human life. One may be tempted as an empath to try to fix pain in others so we can be comfortable. I see empathy and codependence as fellow travellers. That is a long and un-needed explanation.

I am tempted to want to avoid intimacy because as long as I can be "objective", I am more comfortable.

For instance I felt rage today and it was wanting to land on your decisons that you have every right to make. The rage is like all rage in my sinew. I can imagine it was there when born as I have always felt strength from anger and self defensive with it. Anger is a fellow traveller to empathy too. Anger undigetsted like when we have child hood unresolved anger gets enraging. I apologize for not being able to manage my rage. It just was choosing an opportunity. I forgive myself reluctantly as it seems wrong.

It was wrong but I am not wrong.

I do know that what I know about certain better actions being usefiul for resolving issues. Problem solving is enhanced by empathy. Empathy lets us feel a whole scene.We can feel what others feel so can sense what might "help"? But maybe finding the solutions are not my business?

People don't need to be told anything about themselves to learn. But what is frustrating for me in a friendshipis the feeling of someonepulling me into their worldview because of the way they feel? Maybe there is "worry" rather than assurance. Anything offered is not going to assuage the deep worry.

I will use my own example. I am talking about pain that is mine which comes out as migraines. I still have migraines but I reason with myself about what that means. Yes, I take imetrx because it works. I am not saying people should not take medicines. BUT I don't worry about them. I do what I do with them and go to bed. They last as long as they last. Seems like a purge as afterwards I am feeling very well,better than ever. All symptoms of anything are assuaged by my assurance that I am aself healing being.

You mentioned that you worry about my migraines and think I should see what is going on...like with scans etc. I deflected that statement as I perceive it as un-necessary. But IF I was feeling worried, and IF I sought help and you had a solution, I'd be willing to be supported. But I also note that other people handle their pain differently where there is both a complaint and a seeming inability to expand solutions well.

My biggest problem is that I no longer have faith in the allopathic "solution". Unfortunately every where I look I see it in my face that others are still believers (but often very disapointed). I think we are being persuaded to feel weak and needy and frail. I have faith we are strong and wellness in all areas IS what is natural. We can balance and heal and our own energy is VERY READILY connected to Divine energy which is inexhaustable.

For migraine dissolution I am doing more neck work, posture and chiropractic adjustment AND emotional work. I want to be close but my emotions can get very prickly. I especially have a fear of getting suckered. One aspect of that is needing to set boundaries still with friends. Their discomfort transmits and I feel it. Rather than be codependent thinking I need to join with them (and be joined in my unresolved stuff), I am seeking to dissolve my pain AND MY need to make others feel better so i will feel better.

My rage is not your problem and yet, I get triggered by feeling helpless yet somehow responsible. I have never felt helpless with my pain and suffering but can feel it when I feel others in a close relationship.

Until such time as I am no longer triggered, I may need to stay out of scenes such as when a friend is in the medical mode. I can easily hang out and help build a deck or whatever project is happening. I can listen to people talk without an issue. But what I cannot do is be depended on to be of any use when a friend needs a nurse. That role is too close to the rage zone. I identify this no man land and am seeking to clean it up but its a debris field. I don't know if you use hooponopono but I do so I am sorry Divine (in you), Please forgive me, I love you, Thank you.

[Maggie]

Multiple energies clouding the path. Some are about gaining vantage and separation. Some are about others and their attachments. And within the others there are multiple energies which appear to be one thing but are another.

There is a rule of thumb with compassion. It can turn to pity being the first consideration. But the essence is that the person of which draws in your pity has made attachments to energies which they themselves must deal with. The energies wish to stay with those people and the appearance of an angelic helper is of course not what they wish, so they will attempt a number of different things. They will defend their turf of what is a form of possession. They will do so by trying to muddy energies and cause linkages to the compassionate spirit who is not aware of that dynamic. Sometimes they will aim to eventually jump off the original host and attach to the healer. The affected will indeed be healed via transference.
Transference is a very common aspect of these energies and yet it can go unlabelled even when it becomes obvious when its name is uttered.
"Come share my load, partake in my misery". It is not always something that they are aware of doing, the parasitic energy will not let them remove those energies by earthing themselves, for that would be death to it, they are really wanting to not be disturbed and will anger at the out reached hand of help, but if the envelope is pushed the healer will be attacked in an attempt to neutralise or as said, multiply.

These scenarios are tricky to centre yourself in and you will be bound to be tripped up here and there. When surrounded by people holding unresolved contracts with these energies, the energies can be more aware of you than you may be of them in their entirety, and they will be trying to compromise your power. Sometimes they see a person who holds compassion to help, as a catalyst to create conditions in which to feed, so this can be another reason for the seeming desire to be tricky.

I wrote another post before yours. Thanks so much....very tricky indeed!

[Dreamtimer]

I get mad. Most people who know me daily don't know it/can't see it. I get mad at injustice. I get mad at hypocrisy. I get mad at double-standards and making excuses.

There's a lot right now to make me mad.

I want to talk to people. They don't want to listen. They need to be right. They even say so. We can't find solutions when people just want to be right and don't want to dialogue.

I get so mad.

I don't get enraged. I do get outraged. For me the difference is that enraged is out of control. Outraged is directly associated with injustice and unfairness.

I'm losing faith in people I've known for a long time due to their double-standards, hypocrisy, and excuse making. They can't even recall what they've said and then they try to project or reflect back onto other people.

This makes me sad.

And then I get mad again.


I do have outlets so that I don't just simmer away.

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[Dreamtimer]

Hope I didn't interrupt the flow. Nice exchange. :thup:

[Maggie]

Hope I didn't interrupt the flow. Nice exchange. :thup:

Thanks for your contribution! All of this discussion has been awesome for me to digest. Much appreciation!

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[Dreamtimer]

I definitely go hermit at home. I'm fine if the phone doesn't ring and I don't talk to anyone most of the day. But I will get stir crazy and I do need to go out and party. As in celebrate with people and laugh and have fun.

It's not easy to be both hermit and sociable.

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[Elen]

Multiple energies clouding the path. Some are about gaining vantage and separation. Some are about others and their attachments. And within the others there are multiple energies which appear to be one thing but are another.

There is a rule of thumb with compassion. It can turn to pity being the first consideration. But the essence is that the person of which draws in your pity has made attachments to energies which they themselves must deal with. The energies wish to stay with those people and the appearance of an angelic helper is of course not what they wish, so they will attempt a number of different things. They will defend their turf of what is a form of possession. They will do so by trying to muddy energies and cause linkages to the compassionate spirit who is not aware of that dynamic. Sometimes they will aim to eventually jump off the original host and attach to the healer. The affected will indeed be healed via transference.
Transference is a very common aspect of these energies and yet it can go unlabelled even when it becomes obvious when its name is uttered.
"Come share my load, partake in my misery". It is not always something that they are aware of doing, the parasitic energy will not let them remove those energies by earthing themselves, for that would be death to it, they are really wanting to not be disturbed and will anger at the out reached hand of help, but if the envelope is pushed the healer will be attacked in an attempt to neutralise or as said, multiply.

These scenarios are tricky to centre yourself in and you will be bound to be tripped up here and there. When surrounded by people holding unresolved contracts with these energies, the energies can be more aware of you than you may be of them in their entirety, and they will be trying to compromise your power. Sometimes they see a person who holds compassion to help, as a catalyst to create conditions in which to feed, so this can be another reason for the seeming desire to be tricky.

I enjoy the wisdom that seems to come through you enjoy being. Very good advice. :love:

[Dreamtimer]

I see zesty truth orange people...

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[Emil El Zapato]

Sincerely I expect that each of us is travelling asingular path as part of One great energetic swirl. I am having such a hard time tonight reconciling this seeming fact with what to do about that with my people in my life. how to feel happy with whatever they choose IF I feel involved.

Most of the time I would rather be alone because being a person relating, being with people who feel so different to me, then all sorts of contrasts feel awful.

I have known a woman named Linda since the late 80's.We were not close close hanging out and never saw one another even for years. Then we came back together and I have spent more time with her lately. I do not understand her in many ways. She seems to be a magical person in someways and a complete Muggle in others. That is a judgement I know. I wish I did not have these judgements but I do feel rejecting of stuff people choose.

One big fact is that she has body issues that lead her back again and again to being in pain and seeming to feel desperate. What I would have call a cold,she experienced as a terrible infection and was on antibiotics earlier in the year. I knew that I cannot convince her and have tried to focus where we meet happily. I do want to support her and I want community where we cooperate and she wants that too.

Late Saturday she sent a desperate text saying she was in terrible leg pain making her cry and unable to walk and did I have anything that might help? I said nothing but the offer of massage. That wasn't what she wanted.

Sunday she was still texting about her terrible pain and that she had cried all night. I had done some research and found out about wild lettuce. I have prickly lettuce in my yard and that is serriola versus the best another variety but still a very mild sedative and narcotic. I made some tea and took it to her... maybe it could help. While there she allowed me to do some touch and it was clear her pain was muscle spasm causing nerve related pain down her leg. She said the touch helped a little. I don't know if she drank any tea. But it was clear that she would need the chiropractor.

I did agree to help with transportation because she first wanted to see the MD. Today she saw the MD who gave her some kind of injections. The MD validated she would get help with chiripractic. The one Linda sees was contacted and was kind of booked. But the THING is she already had decided she is too tired today and wanted to go home and see him tomorrow. I think he would have worked her in if she wanted really to see him today.

MY PROBLEM is that this triggered rage in me towards Linda. The rage seems to be about WHY WOULD SOMEONE BE TOO TIRED TO NOT PURSUE WHAT MIGHT HELP. How can someone not seek that which might really help? That is a big general general trigger for me on all fronts.

Seeing the chiropractor today AS WELL as TOMORROW seemed the one possible move that might be healing versus masking pain. She may have a hamstring issue causing the left leg issue. She has spasm in right buttock muscles and I think she was favoring the left side while doing something she does not recall and is unbalanced. I think this because the right leg where she has a knee replacement is swollen all along the leg which shows me it needed favoring when she was injured.

I could not contain my angry reaction and I told her I was pissed about her waiting to see the chiropractor considering how desperate she had been over the weekend.

I did not say but observed I am reminded me of a pattern for her of what seems almost a preference for catastrophe.

I do not want to be involved with this episode and I don't like the pattern. If she wants to do anything, that is fine. My rage is about being witness. I know I am not in control of her. I don't want to control what she does but I don't want to be involved.

It seems that I have a low tolerance for everything except what I like.

Maybe that is Awful of me. I wish I did not feel she wants to pull me in. I feel I am standing near deliberate lack of self regard for what could actually help for a reason she has that is scary?

It feels like this theme is about not really wanting to be well and strong. That is OK if I am not a part of the scene. How CAN I be OK with having friends I see as not aligned with what is important to me and asking me to observe it. I want to feel love and peace and feel strife.It is my problem and it really hurts.

I so wish I could release the old rage of parents who were not on my wave length and the feeling of being helpless embroiled in their mess. In the past I Often thought I saw the way out of the situations others created but they wanted me to agree with their picture. It enrages me and I still feel unable to just let others be and have contact with their seeming self imposed suffering.

Hi Maggie,

that's a tough one...consider that your feelings are ok...my ex is like your friend. she learned from her mother how to be sick but not how to think herself better. I had a long conversation with her today listening to a litany of literally unbelievable maladies that she has...she's 52. I listened patiently and told her that she must absolutely get her mind right if she wants to come through all this. I'm not sure she really knows how or even wants to...it is part of her bigger plan of which she always has one. She just said 'yes, I know' and I repeated, "no, listen, you have to get your mind right"

It's bad enough that she was 'short circuited' by her mother, but I fear if she doesn't learn the lessons she needs before it is too late, that she will pass this on to my daughter.

Epigenetics has plainly scientifically justified the belief that what one's mother's attitude about health and wellbeing is is more important than genetics.

So feel your feelings with patience and understanding thrown in...Take deep breaths, count to ten, scream, destroy electronic devices, it all helps... :)

[Emil El Zapato]

If you read the last post,this is what i want to say to the people in my life.

Dear Linda,
You are my sister. I feel tenderness for your welfare, I'd like to be intimate with you on a soul level, play with projects on a physical level and love one another so we feelcomfort emotionally. I see myself as an empath. I can feel what others are feeling and if I am close to someone as a freind, I feel stuff but cannot always tell WHO feels it? I have researched empaths and there is a down side to feeling a lot of everything. Pain is a part of human life. One may be tempted as an empath to try to fix pain in others so we can be comfortable. I see empathy and codependence as fellow travellers. That is a long and un-needed explanation.

I am tempted to want to avoid intimacy because as long as I can be "objective", I am more comfortable.

For instance I felt rage today and it was wanting to land on your decisons that you have every right to make. The rage is like all rage in my sinew. I can imagine it was there when born as I have always felt strength from anger and self defensive with it. Anger is a fellow traveller to empathy too. Anger undigetsted like when we have child hood unresolved anger gets enraging. I apologize for not being able to manage my rage. It just was choosing an opportunity. I forgive myself reluctantly as it seems wrong.

It was wrong but I am not wrong.

I do know that what I know about certain better actions being usefiul for resolving issues. Problem solving is enhanced by empathy. Empathy lets us feel a whole scene.We can feel what others feel so can sense what might "help"? But maybe finding the solutions are not my business?

People don't need to be told anything about themselves to learn. But what is frustrating for me in a friendshipis the feeling of someonepulling me into their worldview because of the way they feel? Maybe there is "worry" rather than assurance. Anything offered is not going to assuage the deep worry.

I will use my own example. I am talking about pain that is mine which comes out as migraines. I still have migraines but I reason with myself about what that means. Yes, I take imetrx because it works. I am not saying people should not take medicines. BUT I don't worry about them. I do what I do with them and go to bed. They last as long as they last. Seems like a purge as afterwards I am feeling very well,better than ever. All symptoms of anything are assuaged by my assurance that I am aself healing being.

You mentioned that you worry about my migraines and think I should see what is going on...like with scans etc. I deflected that statement as I perceive it as un-necessary. But IF I was feeling worried, and IF I sought help and you had a solution, I'd be willing to be supported. But I also note that other people handle their pain differently where there is both a complaint and a seeming inability to expand solutions well.

My biggest problem is that I no longer have faith in the allopathic "solution". Unfortunately every where I look I see it in my face that others are still believers (but often very disapointed). I think we are being persuaded to feel weak and needy and frail. I have faith we are strong and wellness in all areas IS what is natural. We can balance and heal and our own energy is VERY READILY connected to Divine energy which is inexhaustable.

For migraine dissolution I am doing more neck work, posture and chiropractic adjustment AND emotional work. I want to be close but my emotions can get very prickly. I especially have a fear of getting suckered. One aspect of that is needing to set boundaries still with friends. Their discomfort transmits and I feel it. Rather than be codependent thinking I need to join with them (and be joined in my unresolved stuff), I am seeking to dissolve my pain AND MY need to make others feel better so i will feel better.

My rage is not your problem and yet, I get triggered by feeling helpless yet somehow responsible. I have never felt helpless with my pain and suffering but can feel it when I feel others in a close relationship.

Until such time as I am no longer triggered, I may need to stay out of scenes such as when a friend is in the medical mode. I can easily hang out and help build a deck or whatever project is happening. I can listen to people talk without an issue. But what I cannot do is be depended on to be of any use when a friend needs a nurse. That role is too close to the rage zone. I identify this no man land and am seeking to clean it up but its a debris field. I don't know if you use hooponopono but I do so I am sorry Divine (in you), Please forgive me, I love you, Thank you.

Migraines...I"m fortunate, I have migraines of which I only very recently found the official diagnoses name for...I've never even mentioned it to any doctor...I hate doctors... Ocular Migraines...if anyone is going to be cursed with Migraines, those are the one to get. My ex has migraines so, of course, the genetic probability that my daughter would are about 99% and she does....

[Maggie]

Hi Maggie,

that's a tough one...consider that your feelings are ok...my ex is like your friend. she learned from her mother how to be sick but not how to think herself better. I had a long conversation with her today listening to a litany of literally unbelievable maladies that she has...she's 52. I listened patiently and told her that she must absolutely get her mind right if she wants to come through all this. I'm not sure she really knows how or even wants to...it is part of her bigger plan of which she always has one. She just said 'yes, I know' and I repeated, "no, listen, you have to get your mind right"

It's bad enough that she was 'short circuited' by her mother, but I fear if she doesn't learn the lessons she needs before it is too late, that she will pass this on to my daughter.

Epigenetics has plainly scientifically justified the belief that what one's mother's attitude about health and wellbeing is is more important than genetics.

So feel your feelings with patience and understanding thrown in...Take deep breaths, count to ten, scream, destroy electronic devices, it all helps... :)


I know that there is much research about epigenetics and I have seen how our mind will figure in health and also in illness.

How you are able to reasonably hear out your ex's angst is amazing to me. You must breathe a lot alot. I don't want to replace electronic devices so maybe scream in a pillow is good and take long walks and do the heavy breathing. But am I mean and sadistic because I'd prefer to scream at the ones who trigger me? I'd like to shake them and rant and rave but that does no good. Leads to guilty feelings. That is NOT my plan.

Today I heard from a mutual acquaintance that my friend Linda who figures in my tale fell off a ladder yesterday and may need a knee replacement? At least that is what she told this acquaintance. The suspicion I hold is that be cause my friend was justifying her inability to drive the acquaintance's car to West Virginia for her (a plan that no longer suited her) she either did fall off a ladder (and what business did she have on a ladder YESTERDAY?) OR she is lying because she cannot just say no. Either way, she is in a mess IMO. Lying is sending a terrible message to her self. Getting on ladders after having a weekend she described to me is dang foolish. Actually I hope she is lying because a knee injury is serious and she has no health insurance.

Either way I am flummoxed over Linda's actions. I don't feel like pursuing this friendship though there are many great characteristics between us. I am wishing to be a good friend and I just do not enjoy drama. I do like supporting others but dislike care taking. I have decided to retreat and re-enter my hermitage where at least I feel centered. I will continue my own work and stay socially isolated as I like that peace. I am lucky and happy personally by myself. I wish SO MUCH that all be happy and free of suffering! What I can do to participate without feeling overwhelmed and angry about how people behave is a serious issue today. I realize there is a huge judgemental aspect of my personae and it needs healing.

[Emil El Zapato]

I know that there is much research about epigenetics and I have seen how our mind will figure in health and also in illness.

How you are able to reasonably hear out your ex's angst is amazing to me. You must breathe a lot alot. I don't want to replace electronic devices so maybe scream in a pillow is good and take long walks and do the heavy breathing. But am I mean and sadistic because I'd prefer to scream at the ones who trigger me? I'd like to shake them and rant and rave but that does no good. Leads to guilty feelings. That is NOT my plan.

Today I heard from a mutual acquaintance that my friend Linda who figures in my tale fell off a ladder yesterday and may need a knee replacement? At least that is what she told this acquaintance. The suspicion I hold is that be cause my friend was justifying her inability to drive the acquaintance's car to West Virginia for her (a plan that no longer suited her) she either did fall off a ladder (and what business did she have on a ladder YESTERDAY?) OR she is lying because she cannot just say no. Either way, she is in a mess IMO. Lying is sending a terrible message to her self. Getting on ladders after having a weekend she described to me is dang foolish. Actually I hope she is lying because a knee injury is serious and she has no health insurance.

Either way I am flummoxed over Linda's actions. I don't feel like pursuing this friendship though there are many great characteristics between us. I am wishing to be a good friend and I just do not enjoy drama. I do like supporting others but dislike care taking. I have decided to retreat and re-enter my hermitage where at least I feel centered. I will continue my own work and stay socially isolated as I like that peace. I am lucky and happy personally by myself. I wish SO MUCH that all be happy and free of suffering! What I can do to participate without feeling overwhelmed and angry about how people behave is a serious issue today. I realize there is a huge judgemental aspect of my personae and it needs healing.

yeah, Amen, I feel the same way...sounds like a familiar to me syndrome, really. Your best bet is to follow the course you've outlined for yourself. One other thing I forgot to mention that is the source of whatever understanding/forgiveness I can muster in some cases is gratitude that it is not MY problem. Empathy/sympathy, all good but at least it isn't me...It's actually what I have tried to impart to my daughter when I've seen her be really mean to her mother...my daughter just looks at me and says, "really, are you serious?". And I return, "yes, you know better, your mother doesn't". Anytime you are dealing with a difficult situation like this...the odds are against you, persons like that have 'learned' these behaviors and consciously or otherwise know they work to manipulate the people around them. It's very difficult to disengage if one has an ounce of empathy within them but keeping this awareness foremost in our consciousness makes it a little easier to deal with...sometimes.

[Maggie]

I am listening to this fabulous rant on a meaning for life. He is a teacher in his school. It is associated with Biogeometry and a synthesis of different traditions.

WM5kbbJtLdQ

New structures are being created by us and we take them with us.

The most wonderful flowers and plants this year. I visited a friend who showed me her plants and flowers. her experience is much like mine... everything is just exhuberantly popping in glory. I have seen so many wild flowers. I discovered wild lettuce in my yard. Yesterday was just a simply daily ways perfect time and the last two days, I feel time slowing so there seems I have more time?

I am so excited about more beauty and more exploration possible. The intention to be more conscious within this wonderful world around me seems happening. Lately I have been studying cosmetics. I had an insight that I am not so interested in making potions as being a merchant of the mysterious healing ingredients to DIY potions. I am so enjoying the raw ingredients I bought, the essential oils and the minerals, the serums butters and oils.

I really really think there IS a real change as if the EVENT has already happened?

[Emil El Zapato]

I am listening to this fabulous rant on a meaning for life. He is a teacher in his school. It is associated with Biogeometry and a synthesis of different traditions.

WM5kbbJtLdQ

New structures are being created by us and we take them with us.

The most wonderful flowers and plants this year. I visited a friend who showed me her plants and flowers. her experience is much like mine... everything is just exhuberantly popping in glory. I have seen so many wild flowers. I discovered wild lettuce in my yard. Yesterday was just a simply daily ways perfect time and the last two days, I feel time slowing so there seems I have more time?

I am so excited about more beauty and more exploration possible. The intention to be more conscious within this wonderful world around me seems happening. Lately I have been studying cosmetics. I had an insight that I am not so interested in making potions as being a merchant of the mysterious healing ingredients to DIY potions. I am so enjoying the raw ingredients I bought, the essential oils and the minerals, the serums butters and oils.

I really really think there IS a real change as if the EVENT has already happened?

I'm a fulltime advocate of the 'synthesis'... I may have posted this before but it relates to of all things "The Reader's Digest". It was written when the 'collective consciousness' was becoming more aware of the implications of quantum theoretics.

The article ended with this statement: "As scientists climbed the mountain and finally reached its apex, they peered over the top and the first thing they saw was a mystic sitting there. The mystic said, "I told you so."

I actually had a Jesuit priest trained at 'Notre Dame', he was a visiting professor at my undergrad university, ask me for a copy of the article...
interesting...'slowing energy below the speed of light'...That was the basis of my very unsophisticated early thinking for a time machine... :)

[Emil El Zapato]

I am listening to this fabulous rant on a meaning for life. He is a teacher in his school. It is associated with Biogeometry and a synthesis of different traditions.

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New structures are being created by us and we take them with us.

The most wonderful flowers and plants this year. I visited a friend who showed me her plants and flowers. her experience is much like mine... everything is just exhuberantly popping in glory. I have seen so many wild flowers. I discovered wild lettuce in my yard. Yesterday was just a simply daily ways perfect time and the last two days, I feel time slowing so there seems I have more time?

I am so excited about more beauty and more exploration possible. The intention to be more conscious within this wonderful world around me seems happening. Lately I have been studying cosmetics. I had an insight that I am not so interested in making potions as being a merchant of the mysterious healing ingredients to DIY potions. I am so enjoying the raw ingredients I bought, the essential oils and the minerals, the serums butters and oils.

I really really think there IS a real change as if the EVENT has already happened?

Does he have a book? thnx

[Emil El Zapato]

I worked with a Ph.D researcher whose project involved electron microscopy utilized to understand cellular behavior and disease from a 'chemical configuration' perspective. His was a failing project due to lack of any significant breakthroughs. He was a very weird guy, about my age, but he asked me to resign because I was such a loser. What was weird was that he kept referring to me sarcastically 'as smarter than he was and that was the reason I wouldn't take direction'. :) As I said, he was very weird.

In any case, I"ll bet he never even considered this angle...too bad for him. I went to a department gathering and as just a little guy that had no business being there I just listened to their typical gathering exchanges. One of the professors kept gibing him because he wasn't going to win a Nobel that year... hostility and professional jealousy was out of control.

Through the years I've concluded that the root of most disease is inflammation based. I'm sure that is obvious to many. Incidentally, really not trying to blow my own horn, not even a little, I've always prided myself on the ability to 'diagnose' people's illnesses, I never tried to do this professionally, of course, but I have been wrong one time when I told my sister-in-law not to worry about an 'itchy' mole. It turned out to be melanoma which she recovered from but did have surgery to have it removed. That was over 20 years ago and she is still fine.

I never tell anyone this...but since you are wherever you are but a safe distance from me and don't really know me...I will.

I had a friend tell me one time that he 'believed' that I could heal him by just touching him...Of course, we were in an altered state when he said it, I never really placed much stock in it...a little over the top for my blood. :) but it was a nice sentiment

[Maggie]

Randall Carlson is a catastrophist.
He says evolution is like a sawtooth graph.
Forward momentum is interrupted by climate and impact events.

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[Maggie]

I worked with a Ph.D researcher whose project involved electron microscopy utilized to understand cellular behavior and disease from a 'chemical configuration' perspective. His was a failing project due to lack of any significant breakthroughs. He was a very weird guy, about my age, but he asked me to resign because I was such a loser. What was weird was that he kept referring to me sarcastically 'as smarter than he was and that was the reason I wouldn't take direction'. :) As I said, he was very weird.

In any case, I"ll bet he never even considered this angle...too bad for him. I went to a department gathering and as just a little guy that had no business being there I just listened to their typical gathering exchanges. One of the professors kept gibing him because he wasn't going to win a Nobel that year... hostility and professional jealousy was out of control.

Through the years I've concluded that the root of most disease is inflammation based. I'm sure that is obvious to many. Incidentally, really not trying to blow my own horn, not even a little, I've always prided myself on the ability to 'diagnose' people's illnesses, I never tried to do this professionally, of course, but I have been wrong one time when I told my sister-in-law not to worry about an 'itchy' mole. It turned out to be melanoma which she recovered from but did have surgery to have it removed. That was over 20 years ago and she is still fine.

I never tell anyone this...but since you are wherever you are but a safe distance from me and don't really know me...I will.

I had a friend tell me one time that he 'believed' that I could heal him by just touching him...Of course, we were in an altered state when he said it, I never really placed much stock in it...a little over the top for my blood. :) but it was a nice sentiment

I have also thought about several ideas coming off of you rant.

If the collective reality (whether "real" or simulation) is a shared experience, IMO as a venture in creation we have lived and we will die by our values cherished and the behavior we have acted out. SO.... we ought to know what we are planning and be really ready to change course. We have not even succeeded in a world where humans can thrive as it is under the best of circumstances. We act like a cancer unfortunately IMO and as a group venture changing thoughts into manifestations, IMO we have succeeded in one move. IMO that is by giving people a chance to repudiate spending all our lives pursuing trivia and wasting a chance to create a civilization that might survive a catyclysm and pull forward all the good and wise from the previous one.

I think about what I consider "good" and would like to hold fast against the tsunami and volcano and earthquake and ice.... This is really not about books and writing but being wisdom keepers and becoming what we might be in ourselves... healers? seers?, channelers?, magi?, humane scientists who have empathy for all beings? magic today is possibly science to morrow? IF we are deeply feeling about our possible evolutionarily aimed destiny.... IMo my wish is not for the stars and escaping a "dying planet" but becoming a global mind with our very own planet. IMO how to live so everyone is not a victim of ignorance is a much more valuable pursuit.

(Can we agree to the idea that IT MEANS SOMETHING TO US now that past "people" and cultures living in high level civilisations were destroyed? Their technology was mighty, their cultures exotic and their arts were exquisite. They were swept away. Now academies might fudge the data but they cannot stop what is true from being just that)

IMO my ancestors survived catyclysm and were lucky or skilled and generations later I am in a civilization. It is such a shallow one IMO and that feels so full of grief. We could craete infrastructure to maintain our own probable lives in a panet of upheavels even now! We could BUILD great achievements of working social structures FOR the future by acting in OUR living interest using the fruits we love of the past. Maybe its true that those in control seek the end of human kind? But its the rest of us who actually yearn for something we can contribute to the future. Again, it is a collective future as this is what we are acting out. Our subtle reality of mind becomes expressed in the physical. What matters is our creation from now. What is popular and can be funded are not what could possibly work with almost the least amount of perturbation.

For one thing, our internal technology is not being emphasized. We are the most wispy specimens with frail capacity because we don't exercise the abilities. For instance meditation is not a religious ritual but IMO a necessary human technology.

People who think about a "good job" are funneled into worthless occupations and kept in stress and chasing stuff they are believing they need. I feel really mad about what looks like stupid is as stupid does.
All the printed books of opinions (each authored by a mind) and all the fragile technology, all the emphasis on making gee gaws and on shallow convenience seem so misguided in the light of knowing how temporary. Considering the hard evidence makes it very clear. WE may well be the next ones to go.

All the petty rivalries in academies over control of knowledge does not matter a whit if what they think they know is forgotten. If the underlying matrix is scheduled in and of its design to have cycles that include dissolution of all existing civilizations (as in cometary events that burn and strafe) we ought to IMO always be taking that in first.... what in ever we do might last?

[Emil El Zapato]

I have also thought about several ideas coming off of you rant.

If the collective reality (whether "real" or simulation) is a shared experience, IMO as a venture in creation we have lived and we will die by our values cherished and the behavior we have acted out. SO.... we ought to know what we are planning and be really ready to change course. We have not even succeeded in a world where humans can thrive as it is under the best of circumstances. We act like a cancer unfortunately IMO and as a group venture changing thoughts into manifestations, IMO we have succeeded in one move. IMO that is by giving people a chance to repudiate spending all our lives pursuing trivia and wasting a chance to create a civilization that might survive a catyclysm and pull forward all the good and wise from the previous one.

I think about what I consider "good" and would like to hold fast against the tsunami and volcano and earthquake and ice.... This is really not about books and writing but being wisdom keepers and becoming what we might be in ourselves... healers? seers?, channelers?, magi?, humane scientists who have empathy for all beings? magic today is possibly science to morrow? IF we are deeply feeling about our possible evolutionarily aimed destiny.... IMo my wish is not for the stars and escaping a "dying planet" but becoming a global mind with our very own planet. IMO how to live so everyone is not a victim of ignorance is a much more valuable pursuit.

(Can we agree to the idea that IT MEANS SOMETHING TO US now that past "people" and cultures living in high level civilisations were destroyed? Their technology was mighty, their cultures exotic and their arts were exquisite. They were swept away. Now academies might fudge the data but they cannot stop what is true from being just that)

IMO my ancestors survived catyclysm and were lucky or skilled and generations later I am in a civilization. It is such a shallow one IMO and that feels so full of grief. We could craete infrastructure to maintain our own probable lives in a panet of upheavels even now! We could BUILD great achievements of working social structures FOR the future by acting in OUR living interest using the fruits we love of the past. Maybe its true that those in control seek the end of human kind? But its the rest of us who actually yearn for something we can contribute to the future. Again, it is a collective future as this is what we are acting out. Our subtle reality of mind becomes expressed in the physical. What matters is our creation from now. What is popular and can be funded are not what could possibly work with almost the least amount of perturbation.

For one thing, our internal technology is not being emphasized. We are the most wispy specimens with frail capacity because we don't exercise the abilities. For instance meditation is not a religious ritual but IMO a necessary human technology.

People who think about a "good job" are funneled into worthless occupations and kept in stress and chasing stuff they are believing they need. I feel really mad about what looks like stupid is as stupid does.
All the printed books of opinions (each authored by a mind) and all the fragile technology, all the emphasis on making gee gaws and on shallow convenience seem so misguided in the light of knowing how temporary. Considering the hard evidence makes it very clear. WE may well be the next ones to go.

All the petty rivalries in academies over control of knowledge does not matter a whit if what they think they know is forgotten. If the underlying matrix is scheduled in and of its design to have cycles that include dissolution of all existing civilizations (as in cometary events that burn and strafe) we ought to IMO always be taking that in first.... what in ever we do might last?

very nice...

[Elen]

Randall Carlson is a catastrophist.
He says evolution is like a sawtooth graph.
Forward momentum is interrupted by climate and impact events.

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I turned it off immediately when he said that nonpaying listeners are "stealing". :grin: I don't intend to pay, and I'm not considering myself a thief. So there you are...:tiphat:

[enjoy being]

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[Elen]

I liked the picture on the front but closed it as soon as the time code said 3hrs.
:-D

I'd probably agree with some of that notion that humans have required serious butt slaps to 'evolve'. But hmm, revisionist? necessary? probably is a topic that could take up several hours. Could easily be someone just flapping their wing and flying in circles though.

Me too...and I like Randall Carlson generally. ;) Sorry Maggie!

[Aianawa]

Bugger, do i look at or into it, as i liked the visual also, was attracted, ponder ponder

[Maggie]

Bugger, do i look at or into it, as i liked the visual also, was attracted, ponder ponder

here's quite an interesting story. ponder ponder?

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[Maggie]

This is a great video IMO. It was great for me and I will watch it again.
I think he has simple good self healing advice that helped me today.
We can create hacks of our own.

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[Elen]

Interesting Maggie, thanks. :)

[Maggie]

Interesting Maggie, thanks. :)

I had never heard of Penny Kelly.
What is discussed in her interviews is very striking.

[Maggie]

I had never heard of Penny Kelly.
What is discussed in her interviews is very striking.

It might be that I am just totally crazy but I think we ARE headed to an organic magical reality where we will read one another's mind, manifest food in our hands, teleport, carry our bodies with us when we "pass away". I have always sensed that the dire predictions that were heralded and did not come true was SIMPLY because enough of us are here saying: "No thanks".

I prefer gentle chaos. Now if one KNOWS what gentle chos is, it is disturbance that needs no continents to sink. People who HAVE the conscious know how, MITIGATE any disturbance. Change is not civilization catastrophic when embraced and ameliorated. I am sure many presence healers are doing that unconsciously. Just imagine what consiousness coordinating with global agreement COULD DO. Some have to start it> I think we are starting it.

Do we want to have the revolution to overthrow with civil war all the time and the collateral damage. IMO those who want will ahve and in some way EVERYONE can have their choice.I have no idea how this works but I always knew we REALLY have free will and if one can impose a whole world on others, THAT is not free. So Obviously TO ME our choice HERE matters.

I EXPECT this wave event is really TRUE. Our responsibility for what we create will become clear IMO. That fact will show itself and it will be a shock. Maybe many will die off and the rest better suited to self responsibility?

Another long video. I really liked the conversation.

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