Tracy R. Twyman on history and the occult

[Dreamtimer]

I'm pretty sure the first time I heard/heard of Tracey was when she published Clock Shavings (https://tracytwyman.com/excerpts-from-clock-shavings-the-gospel-according-to-baphomet/) which is about witchcraft and other things. She is so fascinating and she goes right to the source. Sources you and I would be very careful to even try to contact.

Today I will touch on an article she wrote called Work with the Square and Compass: The Hidden Mysteries of Chess and Playing Cards (http://quintessentialpublications.com/twyman/?page_id=78).

There is so much detail. I'll start with some images and go from there.


But perhaps the most interesting aspect of all is that the deck conceals within itself the 364-day fixed lunar calendar, divided equally into thirteen months of 28 days each, which was used by the Mayans, the Jewish Essenes, and throughout the Islamic world, but never in the Western world, although it is a treasured secret amongst some occult groups today. In The Playing Card Oracles, Cortez and Freeman demonstrate how the 52 cards correspond to the 52 weeks of the years, the four suits to the four seasons, and the thirteen cards in each suit to the thirteen months in each year, as well as the thirteen weeks in each season. If all of the values of the cards in each suit are added up, they equal 91, the number of days in each season. But perhaps most amazing of all, the total value of the cards in the deck is 364, the number of days in this calendar’s year.

http://quintessentialpublications.com/twyman/wp-content/uploads/cypher5-copy-300x300.jpg

:omg:

[Dumpster Diver]

...and there really is 13 signs of the Zodiac, the “hidden” 13th is Ophiuchus the Serpent bearer...think about that for a moment.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus

[Dreamtimer]

In this collection of excerpts from Clock Shavings (https://tracytwyman.com/excerpts-from-clock-shavings-ageio-and-the-second-square/) Tracy goes into the chess board.



https://i1.wp.com/tracytwyman.com/wp-content/uploads/ageioboardtest.jpg?w=1067&ssl=1












Thanks, Dumpy. You may have seen me mention Ophiuchus in the calendar thread discussion with Maggie. ;):thup:

[Dumpster Diver]

Thanks, Dumpy. You may have seen me mention Ophiuchus in the calendar thread discussion with Maggie. ;):thup:

Actually, no. It came from my own research and my amateur astronomy. But great minds find the same stuff when researching, it seems.

[Dreamtimer]

Wow. My husband just this morning said something like great minds like to find the same ideas. (I only meant to point out the synchronicity, I didn't think you had seen my post;))

This video is a fun and interesting listen. Tracy talks about how the sun is a crystal which filters the light that we see. It's like a perfect cut diamond.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUhdu_xfUT0&t=2s

[Dumpster Diver]

Ok, now I’m ordering “Clock Shavings”...

...I’m blaming you for this rabbit hole, Dreamy :frantic::abduct:

[Gale Frierson]

This Tracey Twyman isn't the deceased wife of author James F. Twyman, is she? J. F. Twyman is an important spiritual author in his own right. He was known as "The Peace Troubadour". He went into Bosnia during the war there and has gone to the Holy Land numerous times. His book, "The Secret Teachings of Jeshua ben Joseph" was an important book at the time.

[Dreamtimer]

No. Tracy is still alive. She was married to a man who passed away from illness and is now married again, I do believe.

[Dreamtimer]

Tracy has explored many arenas of knowledge related to creation and spirit and manifesting things. This is an excerpt from her old website (http://quintessentialpublications.com/twyman/?page_id=90) which still exists. She does all new activity on her new site (https://tracytwyman.com).


It is my belief that the Freemasons and their colleagues who have been responsible for creating the United States, designing the dollar bill, and engineering our economy have understood the principles of alchemy, and have purposely chosen to construct our economy upon these principles. They are the principles of creating worth from worthlessness, and for creating a large volume from a small one, using the power of faith. I submit that the creation of money by the Federal Reserve, and its exponential increase by the procedures of the banking system, is analogous to the creation and increase of gold in alchemy. The power of money to transform almost any thing or situation into another is similar to the alchemical power of the so-called “universal agent” or “Philosopher’s Stone.” Fiat money is perhaps the only thing that truly means nothing except in relation to something else — that is, what it can buy, or be converted into — and yet it is the most powerful force within our lives. This matches descriptions of the “Azoth,” or secret essence of life spoken of in alchemical texts. The members of the Federal Reserve Board are in many ways like sorcerers, conjuring wealth seemingly out of thin air and distributing it at will to transform the American economy according to their desires.




Now, this system depends entirely on a religious faith by the American people in the supernatural power of the dollar. The ability of the United States President and other elected officials to uphold and improve the economy depends largely upon their ability to manipulate the spiritual will of the people, in much the same way that a priest or a magician would, inspiring them to have faith in the value of the dollar, and confidence in the American economy. This faith is reinforced by the financial terminology currently in use — such as “trust,” “fiducial,” and “credit” — as well as by watchwords and symbols found on American money. These objects thus act as magical charms, containing a unit of magical charge that is passed on from one person to the next, and multiplied as the money changes hands.



Hmmm... What was the plan when the pillars were 'broken'? There have been some serious attempts to break the spell in the history of America.

[Dreamtimer]

Pluto is still a planet in our hearts, eh?


As mentioned (http://quintessentialpublications.com/twyman/?page_id=39) in the article “The Cutting of the Orm,” (https://tracytwyman.com/books/the-cutting-of-the-orm-the-secret-calendar-of-the-priory-of-sion/) the number 9 is one of the guiding principles of our solar system, and the universe. The orbit of all bodies in the 9-planet system can be evenly multiplied into what’s known as “The Nineveh Constant” — 195,955,200,000,000, which is divisible by nine, and includes the precession of the equinox — 25,920 years — also divisible by 9.


The word “Nineveh” means “City of Fish,” deriving from “Nun,” the Babylonian/Sumerian word for “fish,” and it is the name of the ancient Babylonian city-state where this number was found — a city founded by “Ninus” or “Nimrod,” another name for Cain, the “Fish-man” God-King who undoubtedly provided it with its name.


However, “Nineveh” also contains within it the English word “Nine,” and since scholars such as L.A. Waddell have suggested that the Sumerian language is derived from the same root as Old English, this gives us pause for reflection.


The word for “nine” in Latin is “novem,” which is very close to “novus,” the Latin word for “new,” linked specifically to the concept of “renewal” in celestial cycles. The number nine is also linked to the passage of time through celestial cycles, and its cabalistic meaning is defined by Aleister Crowley as “stability in change.”


The thing that creates the “stability in change” that we find in the heavenly bodies of our solar system is the Sun, which causes bodies to rotate and revolve around itself in orbits that tend towards perfect circles — circles of 360 degress, which is, of course, divisible by 9.


Michael Schneider, in A Beginner’s Guide to Constructing the Universe, described how ancient man marked the recurring cycles of important dates in his circular calendar on the points of an enneagram — a nine-pointed star. “If we put January 1, the beginning of the Western year, at the top of the enneagram at point nine,” he wrote, “the distance between each of the remaining points marks a period of forty days, a traditional milestone in time-reckoning and mythological symbolism.”

http://quintessentialpublications.com/twyman/wp-content/uploads/9calendar-300x212.jpg


Unlike any other number, the multiples of nine can all be reduced to the same digital root, which involves the process of adding all of the digits in a number together to get the sum, and then adding those digits together, and on and on, until you are down to a single digit, which is the “digital root.” When dealing with multiples of 9, the digital root is always 9 as well. You can also, because of this property, take a multi-digit number that is a multiple of 9 and move the digits into any configuration you wish. The resulting number will still be a multiple of 9 — always, every time.


Another interesting property of 9 that is based on this same principle can be found by examining the familiar multiplication table of the numbers 1-9, and then creating a second table which reduces those numbers to their digital roots — a process called, since medieval times, “casting out nines.” The rows whose digits add up to 9 form geometric patterns that mirror one another perfectly and turn at right angles.


The only pattern created that has no mirror reflection is the one created by the number 9 itself. “A square of four nines appears at the table’s center,” writes Michael Schneider, “and then a wall of solid nines forms a boundary along the table’s edges, the proverbial horizon, or shepherd, which the numbers below approach and revolve before in patterns but never pass beyond. Nine bounds and directs the choreography of the cosmic order revolving around it.”


We find that the sum of all the corner angles in any symmetrical polygon has a digital root of 9. As Schneider writes, “Nine serves to bound or enclose numbers and shapes despite their apparent differences,” providing that “stability in change” that Crowley described so aptly.


Michael Schneider shows how 9 points can be arranged to form a St. Andrew’s cross, or an X, which can then be used as the basis for building a labyrinth in which a person who walks through it takes nine turns through eight rings, a traditional labyrinth design


“The lost clues to their music are built into the labyrinth structure. Each ring of this labyrinth corresponds to a note of the musical octave. The order in which the traveler ritually traverses the different rings determines the sequence of notes to be chanted as the ‘song’ of that labyrinth.”

http://quintessentialpublications.com/twyman/wp-content/uploads/9labyrinth-300x275.jpg


The calendar, described in the article The Cutting of the Orm, is based on both the numbers 9 and 13, 9 being a solar number that factors into the revolutions of the Earth (and other planets) around the sun, and 13 being a lunar number that factors into the revolutions of the moon around the Earth. The extremely complex and accurate Mayan and Aztec calendars were also based on the numbers 9 and 13. It seems that we have unlocked one of the greatest secrets of the ages, and it is based on the “universal language” of number.

:eyebrows:

[Dumpster Diver]

As I mentioned, ordered this puppy and now started to read it.

Do check your hairline for that tattooed 666, Dreamy, as Clock Shavings appears to be a recruiting tool for the dark side. She basically admits this in the first 70 pages or so, it seems.

She is reporting on doing sessions on a OUIJA brand, similar to when I was as a kid working with some friends on a OUIJA board. I sensed a pretty dark presence in our sessions and then absolutely stayed away from it. Even at 15, I could tell there was some evil sh!t there, and should not be trifled with.

Fasinating, decently written book so far...

[Dumpster Diver]

Oh, and she writes that she lost her husband at a fairly young age. I can’t help but think this was a price she paid for these experiences.

It seems to be a common theme among “successful” people who sold out, they had to pay by sacrificing someone dear to them.

[WantDisclosure]

She is reporting on doing, sessions on a OUIJA brand, similar to when I was as a kid working with some friends on a OUIJA board. I sensed a pretty dark presence in our sessions and then absolutely stayed away from it. Even at 15, I could tell there was some evil sh!t there, and should not be trifled with.

I seem to recall a conversation between Jordan Maxwell and Jeff Rense on that exact perspective many years ago. They were both issuing a warning to the listening audience, I think.

[Dreamtimer]

Ouija is not something to be trifled with. The most important thing I've heard is that one must close the portal when done. Otherwise, the entity you've summoned has entree. I never played with one, even as a kid. My mom was scared of them and made me promise. As a kid I didn't really believe they had any power. I was more leery of the other kids getting themselves worked up and then doing something stupid.

Tracy has expressed concerns about her soul and the price she may have paid as a result of her contacts. She was married to a man who died from an asthma attack. I knew a couple who were married and devoted their lives to health and helping people and the husband in that marriage died from an asthma attack. Tragic.

I don't personally believe her soul can be permanently harmed. But some healing and cleansing may be in order. I'm also aware that her perspectives have changed over the years. She's currently questioning what the earth really is and has gone way down the Q-anon rabbit hole where people are speculating that it's Trump. I'm not down with that at all.

But we're human, and we all have something to offer.

[Dumpster Diver]

Ouija is not something to be trifled with. The most important thing I've heard is that one must close the portal when done. Otherwise, the entity you've summoned has entree. I never played with one, even as a kid. My mom was scared of them and made me promise. As a kid I didn't really believe they had any power. I was more leery of the other kids getting themselves worked up and then doing something stupid.

Tracy has expressed concerns about her soul and the price she may have paid as a result of her contacts. She was married to a man who died from an asthma attack. I knew a couple who were married and devoted their lives to health and helping people and the husband in that marriage died from an asthma attack. Tragic.

I don't personally believe her soul can be permanently harmed. But some healing and cleansing may be in order. I'm also aware that her perspectives have changed over the years. She's currently questioning what the earth really is and has gone way down the Q-anon rabbit hole where people are speculating that it's Trump. I'm not down with that at all.

But we're human, and we all have something to offer.

...ok, all I know is, if I wake up one morning and find I’ve got a 666 tattoed into MY hairline, I’m blaming YOU, Dreamy...

[Dreamtimer]

Don't worry. It's only magnetic crayons.

[Elen]

Ouija is not something to be trifled with. The most important thing I've heard is that one must close the portal when done. Otherwise, the entity you've summoned has entree. I never played with one, even as a kid. My mom was scared of them and made me promise. As a kid I didn't really believe they had any power. I was more leery of the other kids getting themselves worked up and then doing something stupid.

If my advice has ANY value to you...it's this: STAY AWAY from it! (Really serious)

[Dumpster Diver]

If my advice has ANY value to you...it's this: STAY AWAY from it! (Really serious)

...umm, ok. Are we talking “Clock Shavings” or Ouija boards or both?

[Dreamtimer]

I think this video has been posted on the forum, and I'll put it here. Michelle Belanger is a psychic and was on the show Paranormal State. She talks about her experience with the board and gives good warning.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXOsPMr-IuI

(this may not be the video I was thinking of, but it's quite practical)

[Dumpster Diver]

Ok, on her analogy of a OUIJA board being like a telephone...perhaps a telephone with a gun attached...

[Elen]

...umm, ok. Are we talking “Clock Shavings” or Ouija boards or both?

Ouija boards!

[Dumpster Diver]

Ouija boards!

I had to ask as you can curse an object and pass it on to another person...if you are powerful enough, that is. Works positively as well, but typically objects are not used, unless you are using a surrogate person, i.e. the person is the “object”.

[Dreamtimer]

This is the story I was thinking of. It's called The Black Hen Planchette (http://weekinweird.com/2016/09/11/black-hen-planchette-haunted-ouija-board-exorcism/). Don't know if it's true. It's a good tale.

[Elen]

This is the story I was thinking of. It's called The Black Hen Planchette (http://weekinweird.com/2016/09/11/black-hen-planchette-haunted-ouija-board-exorcism/). Don't know if it's true. It's a good tale.

I still say stay away from it...I have my reasons! :smiley hug:

[Dreamtimer]

The people in this story have reasons too! I'm not advocating Ouija, of course. It's a big player in the occult world.

[Aianawa]

Exciting, thanks



I'm pretty sure the first time I heard/heard of Tracey was when she published Clock Shavings (https://tracytwyman.com/excerpts-from-clock-shavings-the-gospel-according-to-baphomet/) which is about witchcraft and other things. She is so fascinating and she goes right to the source. Sources you and I would be very careful to even try to contact.

Today I will touch on an article she wrote called Work with the Square and Compass: The Hidden Mysteries of Chess and Playing Cards (http://quintessentialpublications.com/twyman/?page_id=78).

There is so much detail. I'll start with some images and go from there.



http://quintessentialpublications.com/twyman/wp-content/uploads/cypher5-copy-300x300.jpg

:omg:

[Dumpster Diver]

...umm, now the voices are telling me to find a tattoo parlor...:belief:

[Dreamtimer]

Gonna put that calendar right on your arm, Dumpy? Maybe some sacred geometry. I have a friend who had a phrase in ogham tattooed on his arm. I have no tattoos.

[Dumpster Diver]

Gonna put that calendar right on your arm, Dumpy? Maybe some sacred geometry. I have a friend who had a phrase in ogham tattooed on his arm. I have no tattoos.

...not sure, maybe a Talavera swastika. GF and I are going thru a Talavera phase...

http://034ffd5.netsolhost.com/ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Talavera.jpg

[Dreamtimer]

Those are really pretty. I just got a couple pots for plants made in Mexico. They look a little like these.


Tracy's most recent book is called Genuflect (https://tracytwyman.com/genuflect-my-new-novel-available-now-as-a-pdf-kindle-and-paperback-coming-shortly/). It's her first work of fiction. I've been listening to a couple interviews. She says that the things she wrote about have begun to happen in uncanny ways. I don't know the plot fully, but it sounds bad. So maybe the sun blowing up would be better, if her work is indeed visionary.

[Dumpster Diver]

...it might look like this:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/bf/b8/f5/bfb8f5e8a40facdf8fc67e985fb35480.jpg

[Dreamtimer]

That looks like a mandala, though the central wheel is not perfectly symmetric. It looks potentially painful and long to get something like that inked.

[Dumpster Diver]

That looks like a mandala, though the central wheel is not perfectly symmetric. It looks potentially painful and long to get something like that inked.

I’ll get a washable, I’m not into pain...

[Dreamtimer]

In Genuflect (https://tracytwyman.com/genuflect-faq-with-answers/), London is the center of the efforts to destroy the current creation to make a new one. The ritual is to break the pillars of heaven.


The connection with Superman and the diamond shape is a part of the story that came by a happy and obviously divinely-inspired accident. It all started when I noticed that the plot of land on which the Temple of Mithras is located–Bucklersbury–just so happens to be shaped like the Superman logo, as defined by the streets surrounding it. I then discovered that this particular diamond shape is really the side view of what is called a “round cut brilliant diamond.” This was a particular cut of diamond invented in 1919, and it’s the most popular cut today, because it was scientifically designed by a Belgian mathematician to refract the maximum amount of light.


It has 58 facets, a number associated with the Baphomet idol of the Templars, as I explain in the book.In the story, this diamond is connected to the concept of the Royal Arch keystone in Freemasonry, which is presented in Masonic images as a sort of plug sealing a hole at the top of the arc of the sky. Above this is the Hyperuranian Sun, as the keystone is sometimes shown removed from the arch, allowing this higher light to shine through. The diamond, as I explain in the novel, acts as a deck prism on an old ship, filtering and amplifying light from above, illuminating the realm below. This is also what I think the Masonic keystone is meant to do when it is in place.

[Dumpster Diver]

I just read the part where Tracy and crew have summoned Jesus on the OUIJA board, who is pretty irascible. And her version has J-boy conning Barnabas(?) To be crucified in his stead on the cross, marrying Mary Magdalene, moving to Provance (who wouldn’t?), popping out kids who become kingly tyrants in France.

It all fits in my book...

[Dreamtimer]

I think it was Thomas, often called Thomas Didymous which means twin. It may have been a twin in Jesus' place.

Also there is a story of God causing Judas to look like Jesus, and that it was actually Judas who was crucified.

[Aragorn]

I think it was Thomas, often called Thomas Didymous which means twin. It may have been a twin in Jesus' place.

Also there is a story of God causing Judas to look like Jesus, and that it was actually Judas who was crucified.

If there is any historical value in the chronology of the four official gospels, then that would have been impossible, because Judas Iskariot — there were also other disciples named Judas — had allegedly already hung himself on the night that he just as allegedly betrayed Jesus, and according to these gospels, Jesus was only crucified on the afternoon of the next day.

But then again, there are so many conflicting stories regarding the person named Jesus, and if he ever really existed, then his name would have been Yeshua, because "Jesus" is a latinism. There are (historical or pseudo-historical) claims from all the way that there would have been two people who fit his description — one who was crucified and another one who left to India while Mary Magdalene and her daughter moved to France — up to even as much as four people who all fit the description, and who were all preaching some kind of religious/spiritual lore at the time, even if said lore was not Judeo-Christian in nature. And of course, there are also claims that the character of Jesus was entirely invented by the Roman Catholic Church.

Fact is that up until now, they still haven't been able to locate either his remains or his grave, and 2000-plus years of blind faith, lies and fanatically enforced worship do have a way of colorizing one's objectivity when evaluating history. The western world often conveniently forgets, but Christianity too has once known the same kind of fanaticism and the same kind of tyrannic secular enforcement as what Islam has in several Arabic and even non-Arabic countries — e.g. Pakistan — today.

[Dumpster Diver]

Ok, I think I’m now groking the title of the book....

[Dumpster Diver]

Hey Dreamy, are you a member of Tracy’s forums? Thinking about joining, but not if I gotta get a tattoo like yours...:whstl:

[Dreamtimer]

Sorry I didn't answer yesterday. I was traveling all day. I've been with family, helping out.

[Dumpster Diver]

Sorry I didn't answer yesterday. I was traveling all day. I've been with family, helping out.

No problem.

After reading further in Clock Shavings, I’m convinced it is written to attract cult members into their religion. The title gives it away and the forward puts it in your face. I’m convinced now after reading about how she conducts Satanic Rituals.

[Dreamtimer]

I've said this before... For those who don't know, I'm not a ritual person. I don't do magic or occult rituals. I do go to church for family things like funerals and marriages and baptisms. And maybe holiday services.

I'm fine with meditation, I think it's a great thing to do and very beneficial in a variety of ways.

Prayer is powerful and I don't throw them around willy nilly.

Magic doesn't need ritual to happen, imo.

[Dreamtimer]

Tracy published Clock Shavings in 2014. She describes (https://tracytwyman.com/clock-shavings-covered-in-detail-on-mysterious-universe/) it as "my memoir about talking to spirits".

The ritual she's most concerned about right now is not one she's involved in.

[palooka's revenge]

rituals. here's an accounting of my own experiences with 'em.... http://theunseenroleofdenial.blogspot.com/2011/02/holy-smoke.html

here's a teaser clip.... Anyway, looking up at the calendar right after DW was rememberin', at the age of around 5, torturin' a drug subdued black cat tied up in red string to a gruesome death upon a stone altar in a cemetery in the name of some heinous ritual conducted by a robed and hooded chanting circle of adults that sounds all the hell like a scene straight out of Eyes Wide Shut somehow triggered me into remembering that lent starts in March every March. And that started the cascade of memories thusly described.

[Dreamtimer]

I was raised Episcopal and we have nearly an identical service to the Catholics. They can take communion in our church but we cannot in theirs.

My aunt used to call the incense services "Smells and Bells". They were also called high services.


The worst thing I ever saw was my brother shooting a turtle on the underside until it bled and laughing about it. But it wasn't a ritual. He was just being cruel. (still an unpleasant memory)

[Aragorn]

The worst thing I ever saw was my brother shooting a turtle on the underside until it bled and laughing about it. But it wasn't a ritual. He was just being cruel. (still an unpleasant memory)

Between this and the other things you've said about your brother, I'm afraid to have to say that he sounds very much like a clinical psychopath. :hmm:

[Dumpster Diver]

I was raised Episcopal and we have nearly an identical service to the Catholics. They can take communion in our church but we cannot in theirs.

My aunt used to call the incense services "Smells and Bells". They were also called high services.


The worst thing I ever saw was my brother shooting a turtle on the underside until it bled and laughing about it. But it wasn't a ritual. He was just being cruel. (still an unpleasant memory)

Episcopals: same thing as the Church of England, i.e. started by Henry VIII who chopped of two of his wife’s heads, and was the “head” of the church. Good stuff!

Tracy’s description of the Satanic rituals snapped into focus the Christian rituals, one group worships Satan, the other Yahweh/Yesua, both drink real/ritualized blood, cough up money as sacrifice, confess, etc, etc. when you look at it directly, communion is a Satanic ritual; drinking blood and eating flesh. Given that Christianity is a weaponized religion directly responsible for most of the wars over the last few thousand years, it all adds up.

[palooka's revenge]

........ it all adds up.

sure does by my math...

[Dreamtimer]

He mostly pushes peoples' buttons and pulls their strings. It's psychological and emotional but he doesn't get physical.

I definitely see signs of a heart and caring but not often.

[palooka's revenge]

I still say stay away from it...I have my reasons! :smiley hug:

me too!



Thus the Setian has no dictated, predetermined morality. The Setian is
originally, initially amoral: a being of pure intelligence and discretion. The
Temple of Set does argue for a high personal ethical standard, but this is
based, as Plato understood, purely on a love of and dedication to virtue for
its own sake - not on social or religious-ideological conditioning, threats, or
enticements. 4

And Black Magic is simply the language by which this Setian, this
authentic god-being, communicates with and impacts upon all else: Lesser
Black Magic (LBM) 5 in the case of the OU, and Greater Black Magic (GBM) 6
in the case of one's own Subjective Universe (SU)/others' SUs. 7

Full text of "Black Magic_CT" (https://archive.org/stream/BlackMagic_ct/BlackMagicRL_djvu.txt)

Does anybody remember Aquino (http://exposinginfragard.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-case-against-michael-aquino-satanic.html)?

[Dreamtimer]

Aquino won't give any interviews without agreements before-hand about what will be discussed and certain topics are verboten. I don't recall which ones.


One thing that's very weird here in America is that we say magic isn't real. We say it all the time. Except we seem to really believe in magic and be very afraid of it. We burned 'witches' and killed cats. We make TV shows and movies about witches. And we seem mostly focused on black magic.

People laugh and scorn when it comes to white magic but they're skeered to death of the black.

[palooka's revenge]

Aquino won't give any interviews without agreements before-hand about what will be discussed and certain topics are verboten. I don't recall which ones.


One thing that's very weird here in America is that we say magic isn't real. We say it all the time. Except we seem to really believe in magic and be very afraid of it. We burned 'witches' and killed cats. We make TV shows and movies about witches. And we seem mostly focused on black magic.

People laugh and scorn when it comes to white magic but they're skeered to death of the black.

I wasn't sure if he's still alive. Can you point me to the skinny?

Self-talk can be very ineffective at times.

[Dreamtimer]

I did a little StartPage search.

Michael did an interview with beforeitsnews (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2018/03/lt-colonel-michael-aquino-presidio-day-care-scandal-donald-trump-assessment-gun-control-exclusive-rare-interview-3601089.html) in March.

He also did Bases 70 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=iBrtW4s2p4Q).

You can see some discussion of these here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97188-Michael-Aquino-Talks-to-Miles-Johnston).

(I haven't listened to them)

It looks like he wrote a book, I didn't look for reference to it.

[palooka's revenge]

I did a little StartPage search.

Michael did an interview with beforeitsnews (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2018/03/lt-colonel-michael-aquino-presidio-day-care-scandal-donald-trump-assessment-gun-control-exclusive-rare-interview-3601089.html) in March.

He also did Bases 70 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=iBrtW4s2p4Q).

You can see some discussion of these here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97188-Michael-Aquino-Talks-to-Miles-Johnston).

(I haven't listened to them)

It looks like he wrote a book, I didn't look for reference to it.

thanks. I used google and didn't come close to what you dug up. Hummm...

Listening to these one would never suspect any truth to the tons of evidence against him nor would one believe he followed in the footsteps of the guy who said this....


"I was a very minor missionary, actually a heretic, but I toiled wholeheartedly in the vineyards because it was fun, fun, fun. Where else could a red-blooded American boy lie, kill, cheat, steal, rape and pillage with the sanction and blessing of the all-highest?"


With God On Our Side (http://theunseenroleofdenial.blogspot.com/2006/08/with-god-on-our-side.html)

[Dumpster Diver]

Aquino won't give any interviews without agreements before-hand about what will be discussed and certain topics are verboten. I don't recall which ones.


One thing that's very weird here in America is that we say magic isn't real. We say it all the time. Except we seem to really believe in magic and be very afraid of it. We burned 'witches' and killed cats. We make TV shows and movies about witches. And we seem mostly focused on black magic.

People laugh and scorn when it comes to white magic but they're skeered to death of the black.

Is communion white or black magic? I keep forgetting....:wshp;

[Maggie]

Is communion white or black magic? I keep forgetting....:wshp;

That is a good question. Before easter I had a conversation with a friend who is a devout Catholic and goes to mass every day. I learned that she (and others) see the Catholic communion as literally eating the body and drinking the blood of Christ. Before Easter the host is put in a special gold case and put away. She was saying she felt so sad to be away form Christ while the host was unavailable. I was speechless because she also thinks that Catholicism is the only religion where one can partake of this true communion.

This really shocked me. I was confirmed in the Episcopal church where I never learned the host is considered literally physical. It surely would have come up in the education I received? I always looked at communion as a symbolic act and think that is what was conveyed?

This conversation correlated in my mind with an HBO documentary about pedophile priests. In that documentary it was stated by a priest that when ordained, the Catholic church considers priest no longer just mortal humans. That was given as a reason that priests are not immediately arrested and prosecuted but given lee way and just moved to a new setting.

So, I would call this communion where priests change the wafers and wine to flesh and blood black magic.

[Dumpster Diver]

That is a good question. Before easter I had a conversation with a friend who is a devout Catholic and goes to mass every day. I learned that she (and others) see the Catholic communion as literally eating the body and drinking the blood of Christ. Before Easter the host is put in a special gold case and put away. She was saying she felt so sad to be away form Christ while the host was unavailable. I was speechless because she also thinks that Catholicism is the only religion where one can partake of this true communion.

This really shocked me. I was confirmed in the Episcopal church where I never learned the host is considered literally physical. It surely would have come up in the education I received? I always looked at communion as a symbolic act and think that is what was conveyed?

This conversation correlated in my mind with an HBO documentary about pedophile priests. In that documentary it was stated by a priest that when ordained, the Catholic church considers priest no longer just mortal humans. That was given as a reason that priests are not immediately arrested and prosecuted but given lee way and just moved to a new setting.

So, I would call this communion where priests change the wafers and wine to flesh and blood black magic.

If you want to get into Christian on Christian violence, read about the 30 Years War. Europe was torn apart in one of the most violent wars up to that time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years'_War

So if anyone tells you about Christianity being the “religion of Love”, mention this little episode in history.

[Dreamtimer]

That is a good question. Before easter I had a conversation with a friend who is a devout Catholic and goes to mass every day. I learned that she (and others) see the Catholic communion as literally eating the body and drinking the blood of Christ. Before Easter the host is put in a special gold case and put away. She was saying she felt so sad to be away form Christ while the host was unavailable. I was speechless because she also thinks that Catholicism is the only religion where one can partake of this true communion.

This really shocked me. I was confirmed in the Episcopal church where I never learned the host is considered literally physical. It surely would have come up in the education I received? I always looked at communion as a symbolic act and think that is what was conveyed?

This conversation correlated in my mind with an HBO documentary about pedophile priests. In that documentary it was stated by a priest that when ordained, the Catholic church considers priest no longer just mortal humans. That was given as a reason that priests are not immediately arrested and prosecuted but given lee way and just moved to a new setting.

So, I would call this communion where priests change the wafers and wine to flesh and blood black magic.

I have to agree, Maggie. And it pains me to do so because I know some Catholics who are wonderful people and I really care about them.

I have recently spoken with Catholics about this very thing and they verified just what you say. We were, in fact, discussing the differences between them and Episcopals, which was my upbringing. The other main distinction is the reverence for the Holy Mother Mary, and faith in the Saints.

They believe the wafer and wine are transmogrified.


My most recent funeral was a Catholic Mass. We took communion. They don't do the wine at all for the parishioners. Just the wafer. Only the priest does the wine. (I think it's a germ issue, which is ironic.)


Someone I knew who was raised Catholic didn't even know whether Protestants were Christian. Catholics used to call them dirty prots. (sorry if that's offensive to anyone).

[Aragorn]

My most recent funeral was a Catholic Mass.

What, you died and you didn't even tell us about it? :shocked: :ttr:

[Maggie]

I have to agree, Maggie. And it pains me to do so because I know some Catholics who are wonderful people and I really care about them.

I have recently spoken with Catholics about this very thing and they verified just what you say. We were, in fact, discussing the differences between them and Episcopals, which was my upbringing. The other main distinction is the reverence for the Holy Mother Mary, and faith in the Saints.

They believe the wafer and wine are transmogrified.


My most recent funeral was a Catholic Mass. We took communion. They don't do the wine at all for the parishioners. Just the wafer. Only the priest does the wine. (I think it's a germ issue, which is ironic.)


Someone I knew who was raised Catholic didn't even know whether Protestants were Christian. Catholics used to call them dirty prots. (sorry if that's offensive to anyone).

Aragorn's joke is funny.

Wow, I have close friends too who are devout Catholics. They are lovely people and it really has been intense to observe this startling belief of physical transmografication. And how come the parish REALLY can't drink the blood? It looks more and more devious.

I did some research trying to find out more about how they view priests because I think they near deify the priests in again a LITERAL way. This seems deeply pertinent to understand the CULT environment where children are abused. It's the same kind of process that followers of Sai Baba used to excuse his sexual abuse of children and other cults excuses of the sanctified leader.

Here is one statement about the priests Sacramental role and the Eucharist


discussion of the relationship in Catholic Eucharistic and priestly theology, and the deep reluctance on the part of the institutional church to confront clerical sex abusers. At the end of my years as a Catholic, I had taken to derisively thinking of the church as the “Sacrament Factory” — this, because the church (by which I mean the institutional church) didn’t seem to care overmuch about the moral and spiritual health of its members, as long as the machinery of sacramental dispensation kept humming. It was as if the sacraments were a kind of magic. It is true that the validity of the sacraments do not depend on the worth of the priest through whose hands they are consecrated — this is true in the Orthodox Church as well — but this truth can easily be perverted into indifferentism toward the subjective character of the Christian life, and conversion. Many Catholics I know have had to compartmentalize their spiritual lives to deal with this scandal and other related scandals among the clergy, repeating to themselves the dogmatic truth (and I believe it is true, just so you understand me clearly) that however faithless, cowardly, and corrupt the priest may be, the Eucharist really is the Body of Christ. God bless them for that; I did that for a couple of years, but couldn’t keep it up. The thing is, though, when bishops and priests treat the Eucharist and the laity with such contempt, people may cease to believe in the authority of those priests when they teach that this is what the Eucharist is, and what the sacraments are. It begins to look like a sham.

Understand that I’m talking about how the overemphasis on the sacramental role of the priest in Catholic (and Orthodox) theology leads to a perversion, or rather, the unholy acceptance of perversion, because after all, the mechanic can still keep the car running, no matter what his own sins. But religion doesn’t work that way.http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/priest-bishops-cover-up/

[palooka's revenge]

...... My most recent funeral was a Catholic Mass. We took communion. They don't do the wine at all for the parishioners. Just the wafer. Only the priest does the wine. (I think it's a germ issue, which is ironic.)

Some do. Which just goes to show ya not all is in alignment in what presents itself to be the only show in town...

[palooka's revenge]

That is a good question. Before easter I had a conversation with a friend who is a devout Catholic and goes to mass every day. I learned that she (and others) see the Catholic communion as literally eating the body and drinking the blood of Christ. Before Easter the host is put in a special gold case and put away. She was saying she felt so sad to be away form Christ while the host was unavailable. I was speechless because she also thinks that Catholicism is the only religion where one can partake of this true communion.

Having started out there I can assure such is the required belief. Or so it was back in that day. The dogma may have waffled on that in more recent times but I wouldn't know.

It was also required then to believe that Catholics are the only ones “saved”. Or so it was put to me. This is exactly why I excommunicated myself at the age of 5. That was the easy part. The hard part was pretending I hadn't done that...

[Dumpster Diver]

Back to the OP, I’m convinced Tracy Twyman sees the world thru the Catholic paradigm. All the rest of her alt-world views seem to be colored by such.

[GraceKB]

I've read some of Tracy's books, Clock Shavings was the last. I'm listening to this podcast as I'm typing but I think it's safe to say that it will be worth listening to. Carlwood is a good host.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmeWv_a0fDI

[Dreamtimer]

I like Carlwood too. He doesn’t talk over his guests and he’s not at all judgemental about topics.

[Dreamtimer]

Tracy is no longer with us. She was researching child trafficking and abuse. She became worried for her safety and recorded a video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=434&v=EMS0uuQVbBs

[Chris]

Tracy Twyman's journey is really quite interesting and contains many lessons to those that venture into her areas of research.

The first one is that it is very easy to fall in with the wrong crowd when you first try to communicate with the Astral. Her contact was Baphomet of knight's templar fame and in fact she co-founded a new Knights Templar organisation that achieved quite a bit of notoriety subsequently. She distanced herself from the whole thing eventually, but the damage was done in terms of involving herself with dark forces. She revealed a lot of secrets that the general public wasn't supposed to know and when she got into unmasking the whole child abuse network holding the entire rotting edifice of secret societies together, they've probably had enough of her. These people can easily get rid of someone without going anywhere near them and no evidence of foul play will be found.

Undoubtedly, this was a warning to others that might start digging in the same murky waters. David Icke gets a pass, because his lizards give him sufficient cover, not to be taken seriously, in fact it discredits this whole area of research, so it benefits those that are behind it. There is enough muddying of the waters, so that nobody knows for sure what's going on behind the scenes, but we can be sure, where there's smoke, there's fire.

[Dreamtimer]

The Keystone is the sun, according to Tracy. Interesting to think about.

[Dumpster Diver]

Twyman’s “Clock Shavings” has gotten pretty pricy:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Clock-Shavings-Tracy-Twyman-Ouija-Baphomet-OOP-HTF-Hardcover-2014-Templars-/312735497293?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l10137.c10&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0692277773/ref=tmm_hrd_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1566760500&sr=8-2

Maybe I should sell my copy...

[Dreamtimer]

I wonder who's running PLUS ULTRA?