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Wind
17th March 2018, 00:35
Years ago after I had started my journey to find the truth and when I was starting to find the answers to the problems of humanity... I experienced something on my path. Ironically it was a very simple thing, but also life-changing at the same time. I think it must have been a warm summer night. Outside in the quietness I was sitting and I was observing nature.

All I could hear was the occasional singing of birds and the summer wind going through the trees. I was observing the tree tops and their leaves waving in the breeze. It didn't take for long, but suddenly a profound feeling of blissfulness embraced me. I felt the boundaries vanishing between myself and the external world. There were no longer any objects to be perceived because I was completely part of them. There was no longer a separate body, mind or a person with it's individual problems.

This experience completely overtook my consciousness and for a couple hours after it I still felt like a different being. Unfortunately after that lightness had left me, I returned to my normal thinking state more or less. I have never before or after it experienced anything like that. I must admit that I haven't managed to replicate the experience either even though I haven't been desperately trying to do so anyways. Not even deep states of meditation have brought me to that kind of a state of peace. I can only assume that by observing nature in certain conditions one can attain such a state, but I think there's a mystery to it which I cannot fully explain. I believe that everything happens on it's own time and when it's meant to happen.

I have to say that moment made me realize even more that all the problems of the present day and of the past have been created by the human mind. Yes, perhaps with the influence of some forces, but still the human mind is responsible for all the atrocities we have seen in the world. That is undeniable. That's the whole joke, with our "free" will and mind we are capable of creating the most marvelous things imaginable. Yet also we are capable of inflicting the most incomprehensible pain and cruelty towards others. What concocted Auschwitz or the Gulag? What came up with the invention of the atomic bombs? Because it thought that it was a marvelous idea to split the atom. The human mind, of course. The most brilliant and the most dangerous thing known to man. This is coming from someone who's a very cerebral, thinking person. Yes, I'm a feeler too, but I don't like to advertise it.

So, after experienced that profound moment of oneness I realized that only way to solve the crisis of humanity and save this Earth from ourselves would be the realization that we're all one. You can't conceptually explain that to seven billion people. It's just something you have to see, feel and experience yourself. It made me think how could people all over the world see that we are the same organism, the same Being? If we cannot see that, I'm afraid we are doomed to a catastrophic collapse and it won't take long before it happens. Even in this point of time we have weapons of mass destruction aimed towards all the major cities, at least in the western world I would assume.

I don't have any fear about it, I feel more sad about it. Sad about the wasted potential and destruction of human lives. I just feel and have felt a deep urge to do something about this and spread the message about peace. I suppose it's all I can do and it might not change much. It's still a ripple in the pond though. I'm just one person and there have been millions of others too who have at least once in their lives experienced it and seen how much more there is to life. Millions, if not billions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzde9PK9L9o) more could experience it too and we could save this planet. We could stop the hate and find love, together.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHMIfOecrlo
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Wind
17th March 2018, 00:45
http://youtu.be/Bw9zSMsKcwk

Dreamtimer
17th March 2018, 11:14
What an experience. I haven't had that kind of experience. And I'm in full agreement with you.

I think need to raise ourselves better. Most of our societies are geared towards adults. They should be about the children. About how they are the future and form the world. I always believed that most every adult should have a direct duty nurturing and raising children. They will become adults whether we like it or not. We should be much more invested in them.

Wind
17th March 2018, 16:38
I doubt if I will ever get any children of my own, but I do have my nieces and I greatly care about them. I've been lucky to have had good parents even though our life has been riddled with problems. My brother is a good father to his children as he was raised well to be like that in our loving family. Just hearing about other families and of children who have been neglected and abused breaks my heart. Not all parents are good or even deserving of children. Children are indeed the future. Teach them about spiritual and humanitarian values, teach them to use discernment and encourage them to use their imagination. Parents and adults have a great responsibility when it comes to growing decent and empathic human beings who will one day be leading this world to a new age. Hopefully towards an age where peace rules.

"So anyone who becomes as humble as this little child is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven."

Emil El Zapato
17th March 2018, 17:15
http://youtu.be/Bw9zSMsKcwk
From an intellectual perspective, I've always recognized that all things are connected and that we are all one, but, at the same time, I"m ashamed to admit that as an adult, I never 'felt' it until I started anti-depressant medication. It was one of the early effects, hyper-alertness to sounds and motion in a pleasant way and then the sudden 'experience' of feeling 'part' of things. It was an amazing revelation to recognize what I had been missing. I almost felt 'normal'

Dumpster Diver
17th March 2018, 17:58
...I read/see this stuff and I’m coming to believe there aren’t any “normals” at all at any of these alt-world sites.

...you guys are all brain damaged like me!

Wind
17th March 2018, 18:00
Normal, what's that?

Dumpster Diver
17th March 2018, 18:07
Normal, what's that?

Exactly. Now, why would we think any of the muggles will be able to make it over here to understand this stuff?

...so I’m thinking the 98% will never get it. They are wired wrongly.

Wind
17th March 2018, 21:03
Your estimation is rather depressing, Dumpy. I would like to belive that more humans are capable of getting it.

Dreamtimer
18th March 2018, 00:29
Oh, I believe many are capable of getting it. Do they want to? Will they take the time? As with enlightenment, can they rid themselves of their attachments?

Wind
18th March 2018, 01:07
Each and every one soul has the same destination and eventually they will reach it.

Wind
18th March 2018, 15:57
If there were cheap enough commercial space flights and people all over the world could see our planet from the space, perhaps that could help to change the perspective completely. It would also stop the ridiculous Flat Earth-nonsense theories too. Then again, I do wonder how the military personnel who currently are in space feel about all the secrecy.

If people all over the world knew about all the hidden technology, constant ET visitations, our past going back to the times of Atlantis etc. then how would our world look like now? When you know only a part of the story how could you possibly make informed decisions?

Dumpster Diver
18th March 2018, 20:58
Oh, I believe many are capable of getting it. Do they want to? Will they take the time? As with enlightenment, can they rid themselves of their attachments?

Exactly...most can’t be bothered, can’t get away from their iPhone, too busy working, too Christian, too full of themselves, too much education, too little education, etc, etc....

Aianawa
21st March 2018, 04:52
Your estimation is rather depressing, Dumpy. I would like to belive that more humans are capable of getting it.

I totally agree with your belief Wind, Totally.

Wind
23rd March 2018, 00:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzDl-RzNxA4

Aianawa
28th March 2018, 06:04
My gosh, we only know a wee bit of the true reality of history, as is said, data known of time flown reWINDs the future now mature.





If there were cheap enough commercial space flights and people all over the world could see our planet from the space, perhaps that could help to change the perspective completely. It would also stop the ridiculous Flat Earth-nonsense theories too. Then again, I do wonder how the military personnel who currently are in space feel about all the secrecy.

If people all over the world knew about all the hidden technology, constant ET visitations, our past going back to the times of Atlantis etc. then how would our world look like now? When you know only a part of the story how could you possibly make informed decisions?

palooka's revenge
28th March 2018, 12:02
.... This experience completely overtook my consciousness and for a couple hours after it I still felt like a different being. Unfortunately after that lightness had left me, I returned to my normal thinking state more or less. I have never before or after it experienced anything like that. I must admit that I haven't managed to replicate the experience either even though I haven't been desperately trying to do so anyways. Not even deep states of meditation have brought me to that kind of a state of peace. I can only assume that by observing nature in certain conditions one can attain such a state, but I think there's a mystery to it which I cannot fully explain. I believe that everything happens on it's own time and when it's meant to happen.


Given that experience, who needs Ayahuasca??

Wind
28th March 2018, 12:16
Different pathways will lead to the same destination.

palooka's revenge
28th March 2018, 12:19
..... I have to say that moment made me realize even more that all the problems of the present day and of the past have been created by the human mind. Yes, perhaps with the influence of some forces, but still the human mind is responsible for all the atrocities we have seen in the world. That is undeniable. That's the whole joke, with our "free" will and mind we are capable of creating the most marvelous things imaginable. Yet also we are capable of inflicting the most incomprehensible pain and cruelty towards others. What concocted Auschwitz or the Gulag? What came up with the invention of the atomic bombs? Because it thought that it was a marvelous idea to split the atom. The human mind, of course. The most brilliant and the most dangerous thing known to man. This is coming from someone who's a very cerebral, thinking person. Yes, I'm a feeler too, but I don't like to advertise it.


I submit the mind (spirit polarity) is heavily influenced by feelings (will polarity). What it doesn't understand yet is that the Will is reflective of the mind.

Oh, were the will and the mind truly free. Mankind has come a long way in terms of freeing/evolving the Spirit (mind expressing as thought). Sadly, we can't say the same for the Will (expressing as feelings).

If I can come to oneness within myself then I can begin to see, feel, and experience my place in the oneness of the ONE on a regular basis. In order to do that I highly suspect both halves of the recipe need to be in play in a state of loving acceptance of each for the other...

Wind
28th March 2018, 13:06
All I know is that this peace can never be found intellectually, it can be only felt within the heart. The mind is a tool which can be used for searching and analyzing, for that purpose it's good enough. Once the tool has served it's function, it can be discarded. Most of us are not ready to let go of the tool, not just yet. It's the hardest thing to do... You would have to give up the idea of yourself! But that's what it is, only an idea. A story of a person and every story has it's tragedies and joys.

It is very rare for even momentarily to attain such profound states of peacelfuness without being intoxicated, let alone to have a permanent state of peace. Yet it is possible and within everyone's reach. It's there waiting for those who are ready and willing to do the inner work. A great part of it is also the gift of grace and there lies processes which are still unknown and mysterious to the minds of men.

pointessa
28th March 2018, 13:19
I have experienced three episodes of dramatic change of consciousness. The first one, which was the longest and most profound happened at 22 years old. Up until that time I had been self medicating feelings of anxiety and depression with alcohol and sometimes other drugs. I had given that up and immersed myself in a job where for the first time I was really focusing on caring for others. The change in consciousness was profound and I had no idea whatsoever what was happening except that there was a wonderful clarity and purity about everything. I was happy and peaceful. It really was a blissful state that stayed with me for months, only to dissipate slowly over time, yet I was always changed by it.

The second event happened when I was practicing a mindfulness meditation in the evening before bed. I had a strange feeling of something shifting in my head. A literal feeling and then there was a profound calmness and clarity of mind. This time I was able to acknowledge that the calmness was happening because there was no internal chatter. So this time I knew that for some reason the ego had dropped out of the picture. I went to sleep and the next day observed that there was still not chatter. I took my dogs for the same walk I take them on every day but this time I really saw the beauty. I was no longer "lost in thought". The peace and well being was profound and lasted for several days before I began to notice the judgements and internal dialogue slowly creeping in. This experience cemented in me the realization that I am not the egoic structure that banters on incessantly in my head. The ego has never again held the power that it had in the past.

The third event happened while contemplating an excerpt from Eckhart Tolle. I experienced the dropping feeling and again, no egoic banter and the feeling of peace. After the return of the ego, there has been a greater awareness each time it creates mental disturbance. I can turn it off immediately by entering the present moment. Sometimes it will return immediately, insistent on picking the drama back up, and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I allow the ego to continue, and choose to be lost in its drama, although I am finding that less and less rewarding. I have observed that I am particularly drawn to internal drama that allows me to take a martyr or self righteous stance....go figure.

I believe each of these experiences is a process of integrating the consciousness that lies behind the busy chatter and judgement that creates havok for self and the world we live in . There is truly a observer of pure consciousness within each of us, covered up and muddied by this other self that seeks for itself. The way in which it can be dissipated into nothingness, merely by moving into the present moment shows me that it is smoke and mirrors. We spend most of our lives serving smoke and mirrors and the funny, ironic part is that it will never be satisfied.

I don't see much hope for mankind unless it can collectively transcend the egoic self. Is that our goal here? I know that it can happen. It can happen all at once or it can be a slow integration process.

enjoy being
15th April 2018, 10:26
Normal, what's that?

Normal is a setting on a washing machine.

Elen
15th April 2018, 11:48
Normal is a setting on a washing machine.

:ha:

GraceKB
15th April 2018, 13:17
What a beautiful thread, Wind. Thank you! So needed right now. :smiley hug:

Wind
15th April 2018, 16:17
Normal is a setting on a washing machine.

I like your sense of humour.


What a beautiful thread, Wind. Thank you! So needed right now. :smiley hug:

I'm glad that you like it. Perhaps I will update it more later if that is needed.

Elen
16th April 2018, 12:22
What a beautiful thread, Wind. Thank you! So needed right now. :smiley hug:

:thup::bump2: This is very good stuff, thanks for the reminder Wind!

Aianawa
17th April 2018, 08:17
Beautiful share Pointessa, am a Tolle fan and helped shift mind wise through that material, feel that most nowadays are gradually shifting by their own efforts plus many through the collective effort of group/combined and collective meditations/rituals/ beliefs and love n lite sharing.


I have experienced three episodes of dramatic change of consciousness. The first one, which was the longest and most profound happened at 22 years old. Up until that time I had been self medicating feelings of anxiety and depression with alcohol and sometimes other drugs. I had given that up and immersed myself in a job where for the first time I was really focusing on caring for others. The change in consciousness was profound and I had no idea whatsoever what was happening except that there was a wonderful clarity and purity about everything. I was happy and peaceful. It really was a blissful state that stayed with me for months, only to dissipate slowly over time, yet I was always changed by it.

The second event happened when I was practicing a mindfulness meditation in the evening before bed. I had a strange feeling of something shifting in my head. A literal feeling and then there was a profound calmness and clarity of mind. This time I was able to acknowledge that the calmness was happening because there was no internal chatter. So this time I knew that for some reason the ego had dropped out of the picture. I went to sleep and the next day observed that there was still not chatter. I took my dogs for the same walk I take them on every day but this time I really saw the beauty. I was no longer "lost in thought". The peace and well being was profound and lasted for several days before I began to notice the judgements and internal dialogue slowly creeping in. This experience cemented in me the realization that I am not the egoic structure that banters on incessantly in my head. The ego has never again held the power that it had in the past.

The third event happened while contemplating an excerpt from Eckhart Tolle. I experienced the dropping feeling and again, no egoic banter and the feeling of peace. After the return of the ego, there has been a greater awareness each time it creates mental disturbance. I can turn it off immediately by entering the present moment. Sometimes it will return immediately, insistent on picking the drama back up, and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I allow the ego to continue, and choose to be lost in its drama, although I am finding that less and less rewarding. I have observed that I am particularly drawn to internal drama that allows me to take a martyr or self righteous stance....go figure.

I believe each of these experiences is a process of integrating the consciousness that lies behind the busy chatter and judgement that creates havok for self and the world we live in . There is truly a observer of pure consciousness within each of us, covered up and muddied by this other self that seeks for itself. The way in which it can be dissipated into nothingness, merely by moving into the present moment shows me that it is smoke and mirrors. We spend most of our lives serving smoke and mirrors and the funny, ironic part is that it will never be satisfied.

I don't see much hope for mankind unless it can collectively transcend the egoic self. Is that our goal here? I know that it can happen. It can happen all at once or it can be a slow integration process.

Wind
9th May 2018, 14:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQL6qcGqQ0Y

Wind
15th July 2018, 04:47
Meditate on this, I suggest using headphones if possibe.

Focus on the sounds, you can also focus on your breath too.

You can feel with your heart and every fragment of your Being.

Thoughts may come, but just be. There's no hurry, be here now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzde9PK9L9o

Wind
9th September 2018, 14:58
https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-there-is-a-presence-a-silence-a-stillness-which-is-here-by-itself-there-is-no-doer-of-mooji-80-20-66.jpg

Wind
14th January 2019, 23:00
http://youtu.be/mbbKMCaOxAQ

Chester
3rd August 2019, 15:02
I have experienced three episodes of dramatic change of consciousness. The first one, which was the longest and most profound happened at 22 years old. Up until that time I had been self medicating feelings of anxiety and depression with alcohol and sometimes other drugs. I had given that up and immersed myself in a job where for the first time I was really focusing on caring for others. The change in consciousness was profound and I had no idea whatsoever what was happening except that there was a wonderful clarity and purity about everything. I was happy and peaceful. It really was a blissful state that stayed with me for months, only to dissipate slowly over time, yet I was always changed by it.

The second event happened when I was practicing a mindfulness meditation in the evening before bed. I had a strange feeling of something shifting in my head. A literal feeling and then there was a profound calmness and clarity of mind. This time I was able to acknowledge that the calmness was happening because there was no internal chatter. So this time I knew that for some reason the ego had dropped out of the picture. I went to sleep and the next day observed that there was still not chatter. I took my dogs for the same walk I take them on every day but this time I really saw the beauty. I was no longer "lost in thought". The peace and well being was profound and lasted for several days before I began to notice the judgements and internal dialogue slowly creeping in. This experience cemented in me the realization that I am not the egoic structure that banters on incessantly in my head. The ego has never again held the power that it had in the past.

The third event happened while contemplating an excerpt from Eckhart Tolle. I experienced the dropping feeling and again, no egoic banter and the feeling of peace. After the return of the ego, there has been a greater awareness each time it creates mental disturbance. I can turn it off immediately by entering the present moment. Sometimes it will return immediately, insistent on picking the drama back up, and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I allow the ego to continue, and choose to be lost in its drama, although I am finding that less and less rewarding. I have observed that I am particularly drawn to internal drama that allows me to take a martyr or self righteous stance....go figure.

I believe each of these experiences is a process of integrating the consciousness that lies behind the busy chatter and judgement that creates havok for self and the world we live in . There is truly a observer of pure consciousness within each of us, covered up and muddied by this other self that seeks for itself. The way in which it can be dissipated into nothingness, merely by moving into the present moment shows me that it is smoke and mirrors. We spend most of our lives serving smoke and mirrors and the funny, ironic part is that it will never be satisfied.

I don't see much hope for mankind unless it can collectively transcend the egoic self. Is that our goal here? I know that it can happen. It can happen all at once or it can be a slow integration process.

Where oh where is pointessa? This was her last post - a truly excellent post... I sure wish she would post again.

Aragorn
4th August 2019, 00:15
Where oh where is pointessa?

Over at Project Avalon, but under a different name...

Wind
8th March 2020, 04:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q6E4J433R4

Emil El Zapato
8th March 2020, 18:12
Chappie...I realized when humanity will understand that AI has achieved 'sentience'. When they start killing each other...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q6E4J433R4

That is a beautiful sequence...Almost could be termed, "Indifferent Vacuity", not to be confused with, "Vacuous Indifference"

Wind
16th May 2020, 15:00
Revelation 6

The Seven Seals

Now I watched when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures say with a voice like thunder, “Come!” And I looked, and behold, a white horse! And its rider had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he came out conquering, and to conquer.

When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” And out came another horse, bright red. Its rider was permitted to take peace from the earth, so that people should slay one another, and he was given a great sword.

When he opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” And I looked, and behold, a black horse! And its rider had a pair of scales in his hand. And I heard what seemed to be a voice in the midst of the four living creatures, saying, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius, and do not harm the oil and wine!”

When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And its rider's name was Death, and Hades followed him. And they were given authority over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by wild beasts of the earth.

When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne.

They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”

Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale.

The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?”

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Chakras

"Each color reflects a type of vibration or frequency radiating through the chakras. This classic color chart is based on yogic traditions, as well as contemporary healing schools of thought. Although the exact color of each energy center may vary, there is a general agreement about a rainbow-colored representation of the chakra system.

Most of us have energetic blocks and imbalances as well as energy-sabotaging habits that prevent us from accessing our full vitality, which leads us to feel exhausted, scattered, dull… even ill.

What do chakra colors mean? (https://www.chakras.info/chakra-colors/)

While the chakra colors reflect different frequencies of light and energy associated with each energy center, their meaning may be related to the function of its associated chakras and general symbolism. When you see or use the following colors, you could make the following associations:

Meaning of the red chakra color: Red is the color of the root chakra (first chakra); it symbolizes safety, survival, grounding, nourishment from the Earth energy. Note that in chakra healing practices, red may denote inflammation at the physical level.

Meaning of the orange chakra color: Orange is the color of the sacral chakra (second chakra); it carries meanings associated with emotions, creativity, sexuality, and is associated with water, flow.

Meaning of the yellow chakra color: is the color of the solar plexus chakra (third chakra); it symbolizes mental activities, intellect, personal power, will.

Meaning of the green chakra color: Green is the color of the heart chakra (fourth chakra); it is connected with love, relating, integration, compassion.

Meaning of the blue chakra color: Blue is the color of the throat chakra (fifth chakra); it symbolizes self expression, expression of truth, creative expression, communication, perfect form and patterns.

Meaning of the purple chakra color (or deep indigo blue): Purple (or deep indigo blue) is the color of the third eye chakra (sixth chakra); it evokes intuition, extrasensory perception, inner wisdom.

Meaning of the indigo chakra color (or deep purple): Indigo is the color of the crown chakra (seventh chakra); it’s associated with the universal, connection with spirituality, consciousness.

You can look at symbolic associations and the chakra system chart to determine the meaning of a specific color. Yet, the color of someone’s energy field is likely associated with the activity of one or several chakras. When paying attention to the auric field, it’s important to remember that colors do not necessarily have a definite, set meaning, but rather reflect the activity of the energy centers and their frequency or vibration.

For example, seeing purple around someone’s upper body while they are describing their calling in life might be due to a strong emphasis coming from their third eye chakra, an energy center we commonly rely on when we envision our purpose or use our intuition.

Similarly, if you see flashes or a haze of pink around someone’s upper body, the heart might be involved and contributing to coloring the auric field.

The aura can be seen as the electromagnetic field that surrounds the body. Its colors reflect the energy flowing through the chakras and can be correlated to the state of the various bodily functions, as well as emotions and other psycho-spiritual elements.

Even though the chakras are typically represented with specific colors, they may appear with different tints and shades in the auric field depending on the situation and the individual. Healing traditions provide a rich palette of colors when depicting energy centers in the human body.

For instance, even though heart energy may generally be depicted as green, it sometimes radiates in shades of pink when one feels into strong emotional qualities of love and compassion. Red, which is generally associated with the root chakra, can be colored differently depending on the strength and quality of the energy in this center. It could for example go from deep burgundy red to a lighter orange red.

What is the blue chakra?

The blue chakra is typically associated with the fifth chakra, the energy center located in the throat area. In Sanskrit, it is also called Vishuddha.

What is the red chakra?

The red chakra is associated with the first chakra, the energy center located at the base of the spine. It is also referred to as the root chakra and its original name in Sanskrit is Muladhara. Primarily associated with instincts and the physical realms of our existence, the red chakra function can be seen as dealing with survival, insuring subsistence, feeling safe, being grounded, to name a few.

What are the chakra color meanings?

There are 7 colors associated with the traditional chakra system. Each of them reflects the frequency or vibrational quality of light of the energy centers. For example, red corresponds to the first or root chakra; orange to the second or sacral chakra; yellow to the third or solar plexus chakra, etc.

In addition, the colors may symbolize certain physical or emotional qualities reflected through flow of energy in the body. For example, seeing pink in the heart chakra area may mean that the person you’re looking at is experiencing strong feelings of love or compassion; seeing a blue halo around someone’s throat may mean that they are about to express their truth or something important to them.

A few chakra colors may purely be related to physical and energetic manifestations in the human body. The most notable is red that sometimes mean that there’s inflammation. Dark grey spots might indicate a strong deficiency or disturbance in the energy field."

Kundalini (https://www.chakras.info/kundalini/)

The term kundalini is used to refer to the vital force or energy that we all hold within us. Often called the “sleeping goddess” or “serpent power”, it is represented as a serpent coiled around the first chakra or root chakra at the base of the spine.

How does Kundalini energy connect with your chakras?

Imagine the chakra system as existing on a single electrical circuit that runs lengthwise up the spine with lights at the location of each of the chakras. As Kundalini rises and travels up the spinal column, it passes through each of the chakras on its way giving each a boost, so to speak, and making it light up.

What happens when Kundalini awakens? (https://www.chakras.info/kundalini-awakening/)

"Kundalini energy remains dormant or in the state of potentiality for most of us, most of the time. When it is released, it propagates through our body, climbing up the spine. It is said that what we experience then is a “kundalini awakening.” During this activation, the energy goes up a channel called the “sushumna nadi” located along the spine, and passes through each chakra in a sequential order, from the lowest to the highest one. It is sometimes said that kundalini “pierces” the chakras in the process; let’s just day that its powerful force activates each energy center in an intense manner.

In a number of yogic traditions, when this life force and energy awakens within your body, you are led to tap into the Universal consciousness and transcend the usual confines of time and space to reach higher states of spiritual development.

Considered a form of spiritual energy, raising Kundalini requires one be firmly disciplined in both mind and body in order to be properly prepared to embrace the responsibility that comes with Kundalini awakening. The phrase “Kundalini awakening” essentially refers to the discovery and “awakening” of inner knowledge."

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Aianawa
23rd May 2020, 06:31
An old fav >


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=rainbow+bridge+meditation+youtube&docid=608033438962221717&mid=7CAE9707A6FDC7F50DB17CAE9707A6FDC7F50DB1&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Wind
29th May 2020, 20:40
"There comes a time when an entity has disciplined the personality to the point where it sees its own suffering. It sees the pain and the confusion and at the same time rests in peace and in faith in the knowledge, that knowledge that comes to the open heart without proof that beyond all of the appearances the one thing to focus upon is love. This is at its most important when the entity faces itself, for only when an entity has learned to love and forgive its own self can the entity turn open-heartedly to embrace another in intimacy of spirit, of mind, and of body. Until the self is seen for that creature that it is, with dark and light mixed together, can the self move from self-absorption into radiating as does the lighthouse, as does the fire upon the hill. Your lighthouse self, that self that you came to share with Earth, awaits that moment when you turn from all the confusion and simply embrace the moment, looking at that moment with the realization that all is well and that all shall be well, whether it be life or death, good times or difficult times. Still and always you are loved. You are held in infinite care in the tender arms of the Creator whose nature is unbounded love."

– Q’uo (http://www.ascensionnow.co.uk/quo--angels.html#)

Wind
30th May 2020, 19:40
Hinduism Introduction: Core ideas of Brahman, Atman, Samsara and Moksha


http://youtu.be/WhTpJxlJi2I

Dreamtimer
2nd June 2020, 01:55
"There comes a time when an entity has disciplined the personality to the point where it sees its own suffering. It sees the pain and the confusion and at the same time rests in peace and in faith in the knowledge, that knowledge that comes to the open heart without proof that beyond all of the appearances the one thing to focus upon is love. This is at its most important when the entity faces itself, for only when an entity has learned to love and forgive its own self can the entity turn open-heartedly to embrace another in intimacy of spirit, of mind, and of body. Until the self is seen for that creature that it is, with dark and light mixed together, can the self move from self-absorption into radiating as does the lighthouse, as does the fire upon the hill. Your lighthouse self, that self that you came to share with Earth, awaits that moment when you turn from all the confusion and simply embrace the moment, looking at that moment with the realization that all is well and that all shall be well, whether it be life or death, good times or difficult times. Still and always you are loved. You are held in infinite care in the tender arms of the Creator whose nature is unbounded love."

– Q’uo (http://www.ascensionnow.co.uk/quo--angels.html#)

Now that's a Q I can respect. :yoda:

Wind
27th June 2020, 04:00
Baraka, one of the most profound and hauntingly beautiful depictions of humanity I've seen.

"In Islam, Barakah or Baraka (Arabic: بركة‎ "blessing") is a blessing power, a kind of continuity of spiritual presence and revelation that begins with God and flows through that and those closest to God.

Baraka is a prominent concept in Islamic mysticism, particularly Sufism. It pervades Sufi texts, beliefs, practices, and spirituality. Sufism emphasizes the importance of esoteric knowledge and the spiritual union with God through the heart. Baraka symbolizes this connection between the divine and the worldly through God's direct and intentional blessing of those that are most reflective of Him and his teachings."

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Wind
13th May 2021, 08:00
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Malisa
13th May 2021, 08:17
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THe problem is that it didn't "Happen", it just was. People finding out about it, that's a different story, but things that just were, way back, did not "happen" just because current people became aware of them :)

Alan Watts may had been aware of "things" but those things, were diluted by the time he got to know them, so he got the summary of them, way down down the road. I can't really explain well why, but i do know that road, it's so full of spikes it just hurts to think about it, trust me. HE knew stuff, he wasn't able to tell people what HE knew, and it got currupted afterwards, just as what he learned was already rotten out of the womb it came from

Wind
27th May 2021, 16:19
Joseph Campbell was on the same level as Jung when it came to understanding the religious imagery.

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Malisa
29th May 2021, 03:26
This experience completely overtook my consciousness and for a couple hours after it I still felt like a different being. Unfortunately after that lightness had left me, I returned to my normal thinking state more or less. I have never before or after it experienced anything like that. I must admit that I haven't managed to replicate the experience either even though I haven't been desperately trying to do so anyways. Not even deep states of meditation have brought me to that kind of a state of peace.



I'm not sure if it really 'left' but maybe instead it got integrated into you and that's why you can't see it as a separate things from who you were before? You can't go back to it because now you are 'it'?

If you became one with that, then how would you know you are not, you just 'are', right? So maybe you can't go back because it would mean to take a step back, you are still aware of it and you got used to the feeling so that it doesn't look external anymore, but it's part of you, you are this person who have merged into that particular awareness, so you still see these things, it's just that it's your new personal 'normal'

Don't know if any of that makes any sense :) but i kind of think that's what happened

Like "i remember when i could not drive, now i can drive and i don't feel anything special about it, but the first time i could drive on my own was amazing. Maybe i should learn to fly a plane next, or a helicopter" :)

Wind
29th May 2021, 06:50
I'm not sure if it really 'left' but maybe instead it got integrated into you and that's why you can't see it as a separate things from who you were before? You can't go back to it because now you are 'it'?

If you became one with that, then how would you know you are not, you just 'are', right? So maybe you can't go back because it would mean to take a step back, you are still aware of it and you got used to the feeling so that it doesn't look external anymore, but it's part of you, you are this person who have merged into that particular awareness, so you still see these things, it's just that it's your new personal 'normal'

Don't know if any of that makes any sense :) but i kind of think that's what happened

It actually makes the perfect sense, I would probably describe my experience as kenshō (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensh%C5%8D). I became the world, I was one with it, not a separate being and that's bliss (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satcitananda). It's been several years now, but I still remember the feeling. I have not experienced it since even though I've had other kind of mystical experiences and peaceful states too through meditation and other avenues. I think Samadhi is something more profound, also you can't induce it with any substances, no matter how magical they might be.

The realization of Atman.

(...) I am of the nature of consciousness.
I am made of consciousness and bliss.
I am nondual, pure in form, absolute knowledge, absolute love.
I am changeless, devoid of desire or anger, I am detached.
I am One Essence, unlimitedness, utter consciousness.
I am boundless Bliss, existence and transcendent Bliss.
I am the Atman, that revels in itself.
I am the Sacchidananda that is eternal, enlightened and pure.

~  Tejobindu Upanishad

Malisa
29th May 2021, 06:58
Yes kenshō!

I remember this: Once you see, you can't unsee, once you are, you can't become undone, you can only walk forward

You are remembering the first day you 'became', but you may have forgotten to look at yourself from then on, it's still you, but the new you

So yes, you are, so you can't go back, you still can 'see' so it never really went away, it's on your mind and soul. You can feel it, right? It's imposible to get rid of it, it just doesn't feel the same because it has become you, and you became 'it'

Closer to Nirvana, I bet you are now... *Yoda :) <3



It actually makes the perfect sense, I would probably describe my experience as kenshō (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensh%C5%8D). I became the world, I was one with it, not a separate being and that's bliss (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satcitananda). It's been several years now, but I still remember the feeling. I have not experienced it since even though I've had other kind of mystical experiences and peaceful states too through meditation and other avenues. I think Samadhi is something more profound, also you can't induce it with any substances, no matter how magical they might be.

The realization of Atman.

(...) I am of the nature of consciousness.
I am made of consciousness and bliss.
I am nondual, pure in form, absolute knowledge, absolute love.
I am changeless, devoid of desire or anger, I am detached.
I am One Essence, unlimitedness, utter consciousness.
I am boundless Bliss, existence and transcendent Bliss.
I am the Atman, that revels in itself.
I am the Sacchidananda that is eternal, enlightened and pure.

~  Tejobindu Upanishad

Wind
29th May 2021, 19:58
Closer to Nirvana, I bet you are now... *Yoda :) <3

Close to the truth this is, yes.

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Dreamtimer
31st May 2021, 12:58
Excellent, Wind. I haven't seen this before. I always thought there was a lot of wisdom in Star Wars.

Wind
31st May 2021, 22:19
Excellent, Wind. I haven't seen this before. I always thought there was a lot of wisdom in Star Wars.

George Lucas certainly was inspired by Joseph Campbell and Eastern teachings.

"Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter."

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Wind
29th July 2021, 10:13
We all play games.

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Dreamtimer
30th July 2021, 12:14
What was it Poe said? He'd spent most of his life insane, peppered by horrible bouts of sanity.


At the end: "I'm terribly puzzled about the way people go out of their way to disenjoy themselves."

So true. And they also go out of their way to stop others from being happy. It's nuts.

Wind
1st October 2021, 11:33
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Emil El Zapato
1st October 2021, 18:40
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I'm down with this one already!

Aianawa
24th February 2022, 03:08
Close to the truth this is, yes.

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Nice signposts these words, ta Wind

Wind
4th March 2022, 03:20
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Aianawa
21st May 2022, 07:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USk2m92fisE

Wind
29th August 2022, 18:00
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Wind
10th November 2022, 12:15
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Catsquotl
11th November 2022, 11:45
Nope, not gonna do it. Don't comment on it..
Before we know we will be discussing the reptilian and mammalian brains as well..

Wind
28th September 2023, 18:50
Man is a paradox, I am to myself too. We are all complex beings with many sides. I am mostly a calm and quiet person, yet I still have a strong temper. It mostly manifests when I've not slept properly or if things like computers stop responding or get slow. I don't experience road rage because I don't drive cars, but I can relate to this guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtTUsOKjWyQ) sometimes, mentally at least. Note that I've never broken any things including my own bones, only glass accidentally and I'm sure that happens to most of us. "To err is human, to forgive divine."

"One may have a blazing hearth in one's soul and yet no one ever came to sit by it.

Passers-by see only a wisp of smoke from the chimney and continue on their way." ~ Vincent Van Gogh

Also another thing that makes me see red is injustice. So I am both calm, yet there are great emotions inside too. I am only talking about myself in this case an example, not because I think I am anything special. I could be a nutter, but I also am aware that I am just one out of so many. We are all unique in our own way and that is the beauty of life. Everyone is their own musical melody or flavor, some melodies and flavors mix better together. Are people in tune or not, are they experiencing harmony or disharmony? When we look at the world we can see that there is great disharmony.

That must be a sign that there are very many people living in disharmony in their own lives and it is reflected globally too. We could blame the Illuminati, reptilian alien overlords and demons for all the madness in the world, but it still would only explain a part of it. The person looking back at you in the mirror is also responsibe. Not responsible for the actions or atrocities of "others", but for what we are contributing. The person is the society too. While it's true that society and conditions mold us in certain ways and you could say that some people have very little choice to be what or how they are. Yet they are still responsible for their choices too.

The goal is for all of us to know ourselves and it is truly a long path. Although especially introspective and analytical people will become to know their conscious side very well and far more than many unconscious people and once again please note that I don't mean that as a derogatory term. It is just a fact that a great deal of the population is what we call "asleep" and that is to say that they are mostly or completely driven by their unconscious impulses and because they are easily swayed by certain forces and fads. This would naturally also limit one's freedom. People think they make choices, but how much are they actually conscious agents of their choices?

Virgo as a sign seeks perfection yet perfection in an imperfect world is nigh impossible. There is only the ideal, something to aspire towards. To fix and heal things yet as every doctor knows, the world isn't going to run out of patients. Especially not mental patients in modern times. Tools like astrology, psychology and philosophy are helpful in understanding the human condition. Then there is metaphysics too and mysticism.

Despite my past and current pull to Asia and India, I am NOT into guru worship. I can appreciate and revere saints and enlightened avatars like Buddha and Jesus, but I don't have to necessarily worship them at their feet. The guru is a personification of God in a human form. Yet when you see that you know that the same thing applies to you too. Do you understand what that means? We are all that.

"Jesus Christ knew he was God. So wake up and find out eventually who you really are. In our culture, of course, they’ll say you’re crazy and you’re blasphemous, and they’ll either put you in jail or in a nut house (which is pretty much the same thing). However if you wake up in India and tell your friends and relations, ‘My goodness, I’ve just discovered that I’m God,’ they’ll laugh and say, ‘Oh, congratulations, at last you found out.”

"Because the whole nature of the godhead, according to this idea, is to play that he is not. So in this idea then, everybody is fundamentally the ultimate reality, not God in a politically kingly sense, but god in the sense of being the self, the deep-down basic whatever there is. And you are all that, only you are pretending you are not."

"Billions of years ago, you were a big bang, but now you're a complicated human being.
And then we cut ourselves off, and don't feel that we're still the big bang. But you are."

~ Alan Watts

An English journalist, a mystic and seeker of Truth Paul Brunton was traveling all over the world in the 1930's. Egypt, India. He was man of a Western, scientific background with an inquiring mind. He had already had some mystical experiences early on an desired to know more. I have read some of his books and they are quite amazing, there are quite many. In his search in the secret India he encountered many "gurus", fakirs, yogis and lots of unimpressive snake oil salesmen. Yet he also met a few truly genuine ones who truly impressed and even managed to astonish him and it seems that destiny guided to him to this being at the foot of the Arunachala hill, to the west of Tiruvannamalai, Tamil. It was Ramana Maharshi. Maha = great, Rishi = seer.

"Sir Paul Brunton (born October 21, 1898 London, died on July 27, 1981 Vevey, Switzerland.) Met Sri Ramana Maharishi

Paul Brunton visited Ramana Maharshi in the 1930s, he was perhaps the first Westerner to stay in the ashram for an extended period. Certainly he was the first to write about Ramana for Westerners, in his popular book A Search in Secret India. The publicity brought the attention of the world to Ramana’s powerful “Who am I?” exercise; his self-enquiry approach is widely used by today’s foremost spiritual teachers. In these excerpts, selected and adapted from his book, Brunton describes his outer – and extraordinary inner – experience of being with the great master.

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One day—sitting with Ramana Maharshi—Brunton had an experience which Steve Taylor names “an experience of genuine enlightenment - samadhi, which changed him forever”. Brunton describes it in the following way:

"Thoughts disappear like a candle whose flame is extinguished, but consciousness does not. I find that I am outside of everyday, worldly consciousness. The world I've lived in is disappearing. I am in the middle of a radiant ocean of light. This ocean of light is the primordial matter from which the solar systems and planets have evolved. It is infinite and limitless, - and incredibly alive. I am filled with bliss and love for all living things."

Brunton asked several questions, including “What is the way to God-realization?”
and Maharshi said: “Vichara, asking yourself the ‘Who am I?’ inquiry into the nature of your Self.”

Ramana Maharshi said; "From the perspective of a jivanmukta, or an enlightened person, all people are enlightened..."

That is to say that they don't know it yet, because they have not realized the divine within and it's not just an intellectual thing.

"By incessantly pursuing within yourself the inquiry ‘Who am I?,’ you will know your true Self and thereby attain salvation.”

Supposedly also one woman from USA seeking advice from Ramana heard this; "Be as you are." She wasn't happy about it.

"Concentrate on the Seer, not on the seen. All that you see is false and the Seer alone is true." ~ Ramana Maharshi

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What observes that "I" am is thinking these thoughts?

There is something observing the thinking! Which is it?

So that is pure awareness, the soul... Life eternal.

"The soul doesn’t love;

It is love itself.

The Soul doesn’t know.

It is Knowledge itself;

The Soul doesn’t exist,

It is existence itself."

~ Patanjali

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Know thyself!

Diabolical Boids
29th September 2023, 01:08
The entire thread is interesting.

Consider that the mind is like an expression of the brain, which has a lot of self protection and defense mechanisms at work reflected in the ego, which is not life but a place fo the soul to inhabit then the I AM doing the observing would be the soul or the spirit which I tend to think of as two related by different components but maybe not. I kind of think of the soul as our spiritual expression here and that spirit as whole existing in multiple places out there in the universe. People who don't bother to 'wake' up or self develop do not make the distinction between the two, and the spiritual soul element is there in the back of the head idling because our brain activity and mind activity and stress don't allow for it to make itself known.

That meditative state when you dampen the brain and still it's activity hence also the body, and then eventually the mind is where the soul and spiritual components are more easily experienced. The body, brain and mind tend to run on automatic programs based in the past or past experiences and it keeps wanting to project those into the future. The element apparent in deep meditative states is the present. The body always has to be dragged back into the present. When you can do that consciously you can be in a normal awakened state and more easily monitor thoughts and emotions that are habits, programs, addictive emotions that come up and then curtail them so that you have that higher element of expression in your waking hours. Lots of people connect with it directly through the heart area.

New thoughts, lead to new experiences which lead to more synapse and connections in the brain so you sort of rewired it away from what its old program. Thats what I view as the observer that is in the present. It's always new instead of old because its not part of the old program. I'm in a manifesting group. We make more of these connections, new experiences and new thoughts every time we manifesting for someone else and flexing universal connection.

The soul goes dormant if its exposed to the same thoughts and experiences (a rut?) day and day out. So does the brain. Yesterday I had this idea about wanting to see those huge Great Lakes Freighters I've recently became so obsessed with. First my mind and brain wants to talk me out of it. It's imminently sensible. NO. It's two hours away, wasting all that gas to hang out by the river not even knowing if you will see anything to begin with and the weather is terrible and highway so is the construction. Sensible. It gave me terrifying ideas of getting stuck or turned around on the highway and swept along with traffic over the bridge to Canada where I'm having to explain myself to Customs and some other like inane improbably scenarios.

So ten minutes later I'm barreling down the highway on this fools errand and arrive at the Port just in time, not even thinking to take a jacket with me, JUST IN TIME to see one of those big ass things coming up the river, taking up the whole river and blotting out the view of Canada across the river I noticed hundreds of people with the same idea , just hanging around waiting to watch the freighters pass. In the meantime there's all this other activity going on. Pilot boats and Coast Guard cutters. These big beautiful dark birds like loons diving into the strong, really strong current, and popping back up yards down river to gobble fish they caught. Not everyone's cup of tea but I'm totally enchanted. An old man surrounded by gulls he's feeding and they are hovering around his head like ghosts. Some people refer to them as flying rats but they are truly beautiful birds and some used to human attention you can walk right up to them. They have such condemning expressions in their eyes like they are so much better than you. Then tantalizing enough I find my very favorite freighter which seldom comes down from the upper Great Lakes (its 1015 feet long) is downbound to arrive in Port in about six hours but it would dark and I would not see it anyway even if I waited.

It will be laid up in port for a few days so I can go back on Monday and watch it as it makes its return journey. I would not have known this if had not taken that inner observer which was seeing something I couldn't until I can see.

That's also getting to know yourself. Boats and birds have such huge subconscious and spiritual meaning for me. I guess its feeding the soul too.

Wind
29th September 2023, 02:06
That's also getting to know yourself. Boats and birds have such huge subconscious and spiritual meaning for me. I guess its feeding the soul too.

In that case I could recommend you a fantastic book called The Conference of the Birds (https://sufipathoflove.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/the-conference-of-the-birds.pdf) by a Sufi poet Farid ud-Din Attar.

Diabolical Boids
29th September 2023, 13:48
In that case I could recommend you a fantastic book called The Conference of the Birds (https://sufipathoflove.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/the-conference-of-the-birds.pdf) by a Sufi poet Farid ud-Din Attar.

Awesome. I have all the Taos of the Horse type literature but I never found a book really that covered birds in a meaningful way. I get the bird thing from my Irish grandma who was very into messages from the birds and the bees.

Emil El Zapato
29th September 2023, 15:01
Awesome. I have all the Taos of the Horse type literature but I never found a book really that covered birds in a meaningful way. I get the bird thing from my Irish grandma who was very into messages from the birds and the bees.

Irish grandma...yeah, no doubt! Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk! Was she Catholic also, or one of those pagans.

Wind
29th September 2023, 16:33
Awesome. I have all the Taos of the Horse type literature but I never found a book really that covered birds in a meaningful way. I get the bird thing from my Irish grandma who was very into messages from the birds and the bees.

People have also praised the book called Jonathan Livingston Seagull (https://www.crisrieder.org/thejourney/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Jonathan-Livingston-Seagull.pdf), but I've only just started it.

It seems to be about freedom and self-realization too. About the Conference of the Birds:

"Sholeh Wolpé, in the foreword of her modern translation of this work writes: The parables in this book trigger memories deep within us all. The stories inhabit the imagination, and slowly over time, their wisdom trickles down into the heart. The process of absorption is unique to every individual, as is each person’s journey. We are the birds in the story. All of us have our own ideas and ideals, our own fears and anxieties, as we hold on to our own version of the truth. Like the birds of this story, we may take flight together, but the journey itself will be different for each of us. Attar tells us that truth is not static, and that we each tread a path according to our own capacity. It evolves as we evolve. Those who are trapped within their own dogma, clinging to hardened beliefs or faith, are deprived of the journey toward the unfathomable Divine, which Attar calls the Great Ocean."

The birds are after the legendary great bird called Simurgh, but to know it one must get to the end of the story. The cosmic Ocean of consciousness from which all life and matter comes from. The Source, people just give different names and attributes to it. We are all droplets of that primordial ocean and we form it. The drop is the ocean and the ocean is so vast, how could we ever truly comprehend it's magnificence? We are all our own kind of unique birds on our personal journey. Some birds greatly are after freedom. Most birds are afraid of the "last valley" - Fana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fana_(Sufism)). Why would one ever even be afraid of self-annihilation when the real self can never be lost? What is tied to time and the world of forms doesn't last forever, it has it's time in the sun and then disappears and that's okay. What is true remains.

It is said that before entering the sea
a river trembles with fear.

She looks back at the path she has traveled,
from the peaks of the mountains,
the long winding road crossing forests and villages.

And in front of her,
she sees an ocean so vast,
that to enter
there seems nothing more than to disappear forever.

But there is no other way.
The river can not go back.

Nobody can go back.
To go back is impossible in existence.

The river needs to take the risk
of entering the ocean
because only then will fear disappear,
because that’s where the river will know
it’s not about disappearing into the ocean,
but of becoming the ocean.

~ Kahlil Gibran

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Emil El Zapato
29th September 2023, 19:21
People have also praised the book called Jonathan Livingston Seagull (https://www.crisrieder.org/thejourney/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Jonathan-Livingston-Seagull.pdf), but I've only just started it.

It seems to be about freedom and self-realization too. About the Conference of the Birds:

"Sholeh Wolpé, in the foreword of her modern translation of this work writes: The parables in this book trigger memories deep within us all. The stories inhabit the imagination, and slowly over time, their wisdom trickles down into the heart. The process of absorption is unique to every individual, as is each person’s journey. We are the birds in the story. All of us have our own ideas and ideals, our own fears and anxieties, as we hold on to our own version of the truth. Like the birds of this story, we may take flight together, but the journey itself will be different for each of us. Attar tells us that truth is not static, and that we each tread a path according to our own capacity. It evolves as we evolve. Those who are trapped within their own dogma, clinging to hardened beliefs or faith, are deprived of the journey toward the unfathomable Divine, which Attar calls the Great Ocean."

The birds are after the legendary great bird called Simurgh, but to know it one must get to the end of the story. The cosmic Ocean of consciousness from which all life and matter comes from. The Source, people just give different names and attributes to it. We are all droplets of that primordial ocean and we form it. The drop is the ocean and the ocean is so vast, how could we ever truly comprehend it's magnificence? We are all our own kind of unique birds on our personal journey. Some birds greatly are after freedom. Most birds are afraid of the "last valley" - Fana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fana_(Sufism)). Why would one ever even be afraid of self-annihilation when the real self can never be lost? What is tied to time and the world of forms doesn't last forever, it has it's time in the sun and then disappears and that's okay. What is true remains.

It is said that before entering the sea
a river trembles with fear.

She looks back at the path she has traveled,
from the peaks of the mountains,
the long winding road crossing forests and villages.

And in front of her,
she sees an ocean so vast,
that to enter
there seems nothing more than to disappear forever.

But there is no other way.
The river can not go back.

Nobody can go back.
To go back is impossible in existence.

The river needs to take the risk
of entering the ocean
because only then will fear disappear,
because that’s where the river will know
it’s not about disappearing into the ocean,
but of becoming the ocean.

~ Kahlil Gibran

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One cuckoo flew over the rest, Wind...hope you don't mind a little levity...it has been considered an important work for a verrryy lonnggg time. A Big lesson in life. I thought it was cool...

Kahlil Gibran was one that really spoke to me....

Wind
29th September 2023, 20:09
Yeah, cuckoo sure is your kind of bird.


Kahlil Gibran was one that really spoke to me....

My two top favorite poets in the world besides Hafiz are Rumi and Kahlil Gibran.

Their words guide you to the place where you heart feels the truth.

"The intellect says: "The six directions are limits: there is no way out."
Love says: " There is a way: I have traveled it thousands of times."
The intellect saw a market and started to haggle:
Love saw thousands of markets beyond that market.
Lovers who drink the dregs of the wine reel from bliss to bliss:
The dark hearted men of reason burn inwardly with denial.
The intellect says " Do not go forward, annihilation contains only thorns."
Love laughs back: The thorns are in you."
Enough words! Silence!
Pull the thorns of existence out of the heart! Fast!
For when you do you will see thousands of rose gardens in yourself."

~ Rumi

Emil El Zapato
29th September 2023, 21:11
Yeah, cuckoo sure is your kind of bird.



My two top favorite poets in the world besides Hafiz are Rumi and Kahlil Gibran.

Their words guide you to the place where you heart feels the truth.

"The intellect says: "The six directions are limits: there is no way out."
Love says: " There is a way: I have traveled it thousands of times."
The intellect saw a market and started to haggle:
Love saw thousands of markets beyond that market.
Lovers who drink the dregs of the wine reel from bliss to bliss:
The dark hearted men of reason burn inwardly with denial.
The intellect says " Do not go forward, annihilation contains only thorns."
Love laughs back: The thorns are in you."
Enough words! Silence!
Pull the thorns of existence out of the heart! Fast!
For when you do you will see thousands of rose gardens in yourself."

~ Rumi

Truth is, I'm really struggling today...not the first time that's for sure...

Wind
29th September 2023, 21:13
Truth is, I'm really struggling today...not the first time that's for sure...

I'm sorry to hear that, I am no stranger to struggling either so I know how it feels. Now the Moon's energy is intense.

Wind
14th October 2023, 19:22
I feel synchronicity nudging me again. I watched that Ken Wilber video about I Am-ness you posted Chuckie, I can't seem to be able to locate it anymore though so I've looked up other ones. I've really not listened to him before as I've had many other people and teachers to follow. However, sometimes I have to buy some books and some special books I feel compelled, almost guided to buy. One of them was just recently The Cosmic Game (https://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-Game-Explorations-Frontiers-Consciousness/dp/0791438767) by Stan Grof. It's a must read for anyone who is serious about consciousness research, Stan surely has been. I can't define myself as anything else than a mystic and I suspect that one of my main life path vocations has been to understand consciousness. If it wasn't for that then I don't think I would be here. Anyways, in the back cover of the book I read this praise;

"What moves this book into the status of a classic is that it is in substantial agreement with the world's great wisdom and spiritual traditions. This modern corroboration of the perennial philosophy is a stunning achievement and deserves publication to the widest audiences." ~ Ken Wilber

I've only started to read the book as I've had tons of others too, but this is now what I'm focusing on.
Stan is now 92 years old and still seems to be a well functioning mature wise person and a researcher.

In the beginning Stan says that he's been friends with many greats such as Joseph Campbell and Ram Dass has been one of his greatest spiritual teachers, my favorite again and Rupert Sheldrake have helped him to understand science better. He's thinking outside the box.

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Emil El Zapato
14th October 2023, 20:23
The Cosmic Game

I'll give my reflections on this video later, Wind. I've seen that quote somewhere...I think...

Wind
14th October 2023, 20:33
I'll give my reflections on this video later, Wind. I've seen that quote somewhere...I think...

In the book Stan says this; "Ken Wilber has done more than any other single individual on terms of laying solid philosophical foundations for future reconciliation of science and spirituality. The series of his groundbreaking books has been a tour de force, offering an extraordinary synthesis of data drawn from a vast variety of areas and disciplines, Eastern and Western. Although we have occasionally disagreed about details, his work has been for me a rich source of information, stimulation and conceptual challenge. I also greatly appreciate his critical comments on the present book."

Emil El Zapato
15th October 2023, 12:12
The Cosmic Game (https://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-Game-Explorations-Frontiers-Consciousness/dp/0791438767)

I ain't diggin' the illusion

Emil El Zapato
15th October 2023, 12:20
I'm not sure if everything is perfect for what it is, that there is an underlying purpose. The cosmos can't be summed up.

Wind
15th October 2023, 14:26
I ain't diggin' the illusion

Many don't. I do think there is an underlying purpose to it all, but this is an imperfect world. Very much so. Not the Creation.

Consciousness is all that there is and it seeks to evolve and expand. That's what reincarnation and evolutionary astrology are about too.