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Biff
29th June 2017, 13:51
Share articles, videos, for or against the reincarnation trap, and we can discuss at ease.

Personally I don't think it's a trap, or the white, golden, pink lights are or are not traps. NDE research shows evidence the afterlife takes place on many planes and subplanes including the astral and mental worlds.

I think the tunnel experience is soul moving from one plane to another, usually moving from (lower) astral to mental planes where there is a steadier afterlife experience to be had.

I don't think there is some control system where aliens are recycling our souls in some moon/Saturn matrix where you have to avoid one light for another, or simply look for holes in some invisible grid to escape from. And even if the afterlife was run by aliens, I think it's setup that is beneficial to our SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION in the long run.


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Is Reincarnation A Trap?

Era Denmark, Contributor
Waking Times

This article would be a book if we traced the origins of reincarnation theory back through every culture and epoch. Because of that and because of the inadequacy of language, we would do better to begin by considering incarnation and reincarnation by looking at the imagery and feeling that these words evoke.

The accepted use and definition of “incarnate” evokes images of something individual descending from one place, down into matter. This is spatial and temporal thinking unique to the human mind that most easily grasps 3rd dimensional realities of time and space. Most people will imagine incarnation as an individual unit of consciousness (that they call the “soul”) leaving it’s place and moving, like an orb of light, down to the earth sphere and then residing in and around the human body.



But what if there is another way of thinking about this?

Allow me to begin with two statements:

1. Just because a teaching is old, doesn’t make it true.

To highlight this, imagine that 10,000 years from now, a group of humans discovered the Georgia Guidestones during an excavation. Would you advise them to view this as ancient wisdom or truth given to mankind by sages? Or would you suggest instead that they consider the possibility that the stones were placed there by a billionaire with fascist leanings?

2. Anecdotal evidence and subjective experience are not proof of a thing.

This subject matter deserves to be handled both delicately and with assiduity. This involves the examination of both the origin of reincarnation theory (tracing backwards to the conditions of the epochs of which it arose) and its implications. That is, following the concept forward to its logical conclusions and implications. What does it imply about the nature of reality and the condition of the human-state?

Where would a soul, a unit of individualized awareness, who believes firmly in the modern theory of reincarnation and believes it to be a trap, be guided immediately after death? It is said that Luciferian forces want to drive human souls to their own plane, the so-called “8th sphere”. Ahrimanic forces want to keep human souls entrapped around the earth.

Let’s try an exercise in allegory and imagination to view incarnation from another perspective.



In this exercise you are an observer, independent to the scene described:

Imagine that you are on a grassy knoll. There is no civilization around, only nature. The sky is clear and the sun is shining brightly. You are facing north, the sun is southwest, behind you, over your left shoulder.

Floating in the air a short distance from you are seven magnificent mirrors. These mirrors are not truly physical as they are also not truly mirrors but, for the sake of this exercise we will imagine them this way.

Each mirror is unique in its beauty. Each has a different frame and shape. The glass in each mirror is equally unique. There are waves and forms, areas that are concave, some convex and colors, beautiful arrays of colors.

You then become aware that over your right shoulder stand seven white columns. They are also unique in their height, circumference and shape but the material from which they are made (sand, limestone and white clay) is pretty much the same, although some variations are present. Unlike the mirrors, the columns are physical and subject to entropy.

Suddenly something to your left glimmers and you see there, suspended in mid-air, a diamond of such brilliance that it blinds you at first. Then the most extraordinary thing occurs.

The sun’s light hits the multi-faceted diamond creating a spectacular effect of light and color. One ray of the sun enters the diamond but seven rays are projected out of the front face and each ray hits a corresponding mirror.

Now the mirrors, due to their nature, automatically reflect the sun’s light. When the light hits each mirror, the effect is wholly unique. Depending on the shape and unique lines and color in the glass, the light that each mirror projects is individual to it. This light never stops shining and each mirror never stops reflecting it.

Now your attention turns once again to the seven columns. You turn to look and see the most amazing effect. The unique light reflected by each mirror has found a target on the columns. Each mirror has found a corresponding column on which to project its reflected light.

Mirror 1 is projecting onto Column 1. The effect is that Column 1 becomes aware of itself. She is given a name, let’s call her Alice. Alice looks down at herself, at her beautiful colors and glimmers of light and says, “Look at me! Look at my colors of orange and rose and my unique forms of light. This is me. I am my unique individuality.” She is unaware of the mirror that is projecting light, she is unaware that she is a composite of that individual ray of light, the uniqueness of the mirror that projects it and the physical form of the column. She only sees the effect, not the cause. And therein lays her error.

This phenomenon continues down the line as each column become self-aware.

As time goes by the columns begin to notice entropy of their physical form. The wind and rain have worn them on them. One day, Alice, our Column 1, crumbles and the dust remaining is carried away by the wind. To the other Columns who have witnessed this event believe she has disappeared. Without a target for the light from her corresponding mirror to hit, it appears as if her light is gone, as if it shines no more.

But Column 1 witnesses and experiences something different. Her self-awareness, her consciousness lingers there for a moment. She then experiences the sensation of moving upward along the ray of light of which facilitated her awareness. As she moves, it appears as if she is traveling through a tunnel to a point of bright light at the end.

She now perceives a sense of “arriving” and in front of her is a magnificent Being of Light. It is the mirror. She doesn’t look back. This unit of consciousness and temporal self-awareness re-joins the mirror as memories and experience.

Note: She, this soul “container” (so-to-speak) or “unit of individualized consciousness” never descended down to the column. She was created when the light from the mirror found a target and a composite was formed. The projected light was never retracted and the mirror never actually left home. The mirror did not incarnate, only the light projected by the mirror, with all of its unique properties, experienced existence as a composite of form and light for a short while.

We are the “mirrors”, immortal spirits that are direct emanations of the Divine.

The “mirror” will find another target and in fact, can find multiple targets at once and experience multiple states of being, some more physical than others.

This exercise is meant to illustrate that there are more ways to think about the concept of incarnation or reincarnation as currently understood in the west.

The differences may be subtle but the implications are profound in light of recent claims that reincarnation is a trap.

Reincarnation as Understood in the Past

The doctrine of reincarnation, known by other names such as, rebirth, transmigration of the soul, metempsychosis, metensomatosis and palingenesis is a concept that generally implies the immortality of the soul and cyclic manifestation of Being through incarnation, both physical and non-physical.

Most of the ancient notions of reincarnation are surprisingly incongruent with the modern view on the subject. This is a pertinent point to note for it reflects a vital truth…Human beings have been evolving through ages and this evolution of consciousness and soul directly implies an evolving understanding of the universe and the human’s place in it.

Let us consider a few variations on the reincarnation theme:

Mesopotamia

The Mesopotamians believed in the Eternal Return, a concept that for them, while similar to the current Western view of reincarnation, was not the same. The Mesopotamian notion of “descent to the Underworld” involved “descending and ascending” as cyclic phenomena. To quote Adapa from his Treatise on Sumerian Religion, “reincarnation is a concept suitable for the Mesopotamians because it was so real and explicit that it was not worth reporting the strikingly obvious.” The Mesopotamians took painstaking notes of the coming of the sunrise and sunset every day, the return of the seasons, the planets and the stars, always revolving and returning to charted points in the skies. Thus, they did believe that everything was cyclic, and probably considered life and death as such as well’. This viewpoint is confirmed by the Assyriologist Jean Bottero in his work “Mesopotamia: Writing, Reasoning, and the Gods”.

Hinduism

Hinduism is not a religion unto itself but rather a tessellation of religions. There was no central founder or authority. Although the transmigration of soul (from one body to another) has an extraordinarily firm hold on the people of India, the Hindus, Buddhists, Jains and Sikhs, the theory of reincarnation does not appear in the Vedas. The Vedic religion did not have this belief. It teaches instead, the theory of re-death (punarmyrtyu) or “new death”.

The earliest mention of transmigration is found in the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad. According to the Upanishads rebirth or reincarnation of the souls can take place in a series of physical bodies (normally in human bodies but also in animals and even plants) or in a series of astral and preternatural bodies (sun, moon, planets, stars, angels or demons), depending on one’s karma. The Kaushitaki Upanishad expresses it more clearly: “He is reborn here either as a worm, or as a butterfly, or as a fish, or as a bird, or as a lion, or as a serpent, or as a tiger, or as a person, or as some other being in this or in that condition, according to his works, according to his knowledge”.

Who is the “he” that the Upanishad refers to here? Does “he” refer to the True Self or is this allegory used to explain the cyclic nature of conscious evolution? The Upanishad is a philosophical text, written by fallible humans.

Why do so many westerners accept eastern teachings to be absolute truth?

In his various works, philosopher René Guénon, illustrated that the belief in reincarnation held by the Hindu religion and by Buddhism, are misinterpretations of two completely different processes; metempsychosis and transmigration.

This manifestation of a Being (True Self) from state to state is called ‘transmigration’, although in reality, the Being has nowhere to migrate to; it is always home it never leaves home. It is more a case of innumerable lives manifesting at once due to the Being’s mere existence.” [refer to: “A Case Against Reincarnation,” p. 31, para. 8)

The problem with the theory of reincarnation that holds sway over the minds of Hindus, Buddhist and many westerners today, is that it assumes the primacy of incarnating into a human body. This is an absurd idea considering that the universe teeming with life at all levels.

The Druids

Although Druidic tradition forbade the inscribing of their teachings, Caesar, Lucan and Pomponius Mela recorded accounts of their contact with the ancient Druids and their beliefs, especially regarding life and death. For the Druids, the goal of human experience was to reach the Otherworld. This Otherworld barely resembles exoteric Christian descriptions of heaven. The Romans had no concept of the continuity of existence that compared to the Druidic belief. “The Druids believe that souls do not die but pass after the death of the body into another” (Ceasar VI, 14).

Disconcerted by the Druidic belief in the soul’s immortality, Caesar, a cunning strategist, deemed it a shrewd move by the druids because it was, “suitable for exciting courage while suppressing the fear of death” (VI, 14). Pomponius Mela agreed, “[for the druids] Souls are immortal and there is another life among the dead, this makes them more courageous in war”. Despite the Romans astonishment, the authors of antiquity, without exception, testified to the druidic belief in the immortality of the soul. The important distinction here is that for the Druids, the concept of “rebirth” implied “re-entry” into the Otherworld) and/or “rebirth” to another life elsewhere. To the Druid mind, none of this occurred in a linear fashion (as in subsequent incarnations) nor forcibly on earth as a human being. The spirit chose when and where to experience life and is indeed, “incarnating” in both past and present, in multiple worlds, at the same time.

To the druids, this Otherworld is the intemporal and nonspatial place where the world imagined by the Divine Plan is realized. Human beings were active components of the whole, of God and its Becoming. Their beliefs were congruent with the Pythagorean system that exalted the individual soul. Individuals were entirely free to assume their destinies and choose their own paths. The individual assisted the Divine Plan by engaging, as a human being, with the world and acting upon it.

Zoroastrianism

Zoroastrianism conveys a unique expression of reincarnation very similar to the ancient Germanic tribes and wholly different from the Eastern view. In the sixth paragraph of this essay it is written, “The accepted use and definition of ‘incarnate’ evokes images of something individual descending from one place, down into matter. This is spatial and temporal thinking unique to the human mind that most easily grasps 3rd dimensional realities of time and space”.

Zoroastrianistic thought did not account for or include linear time. For the Indo-Aryans, time was cyclic in nature. They lived in the present moment, the Here and Now. While there is no direct mention of reincarnation, Zoroastrianism infers a state of “multiplicity of being”.

The Zoroastrian understanding of incarnation is more like that of the Germanic tribes than that of Eastern thought.

From the 19th Century Onwards

The notion of metempsychosis became popular in Europe in the 19thcentury, most notably among European Intellectuals. This appears to have influenced Helena Blavatsky’s Theosophy in addition to her interpretation of Eastern concepts.

Rudolf Steiner, an esoterist and philosopher was first influenced by Theosophy before breaking away from the organization for various reasons, most notably because of Theosophy’s hostility towards the Christ (Christ Being and Christ Impulse not exoteric, orthodox Christianity which Steiner also objected to). This is an important point that we will come to in the latter portion of this essay).

Steiner saw the cycles of human reincarnation as an evolutionary process, an evolution of the individual and of the whole of humanity, the universe, and the divine. According to Steiner, each human comes into the world with a fully unique personality, which cannot be reduced to genetics or familial and societal environment. The reality of the individual spirit is central to Steiner’s philosophy.

Steiner spoke of four bodies: the physical body; the etheric, or life, body; the astral, or soul, body; and the “I,” or spirit body. He further taught that, although the spirit of the individual is real and eternal, the complete human born each lifetime is unique, and work done in one particular incarnation cannot be achieved in the same way in another.

While Steiner spoke of the theory of reincarnation in terms that seemed to correspond to the Theosophical view there were differences. Steiner stressed that reincarnations was a theory, whereas Theosophy proclaimed reincarnation as an absolute truth.

When studying Steiner’s work, it’s important to remember that Steiner was attempting to explain immortality and the development of humanity in terms that most people could understand.

The average person in the early 20th century had no notion of quantum physics and concepts like “all lives, past, present and future, are occurring at once”, would have been very difficult to understand. Nevertheless, Steiner alluded to this more than once. Reminding his students that thinking in terms of “past and future lives” would be in error.

Steiner offered techniques for receiving impressions of past lives but these were only impressions connected to a specific experience or lesson in one’s current life. There were no great details of the previous life (name, place, date and so on). The purpose of these exercises was to assist a person in better understanding their current situation, their strengths and weaknesses.

René Guenon (who criticized Steiner but also admired him) saw such anecdotal evidence of reincarnation differently.

I quote; “Guénon explains the occurrence of anecdotal evidence of reincarnation (remembering past lives): He suggests that these phenomena are caused by “psychic residue,” which are the energies or subtle parts of one’s organic being. These energies are then separated or jettisoned from the body when a person dies, and while they slowly disperse and decompose, they can seemingly take on a life of their own.”

This also accounts for ghostly phenomena and instances in which mediums communicated with the recently departed.

“These residues can take the form of the body that they once inhabited, thus forming apparitions or ghosts, and they can also be picked up by individuals, sensed in dreams, manifesting as visions or even cause individuals to be possessed.”

Helena Blavatsky and Rudolf Steiner also stated emphatically that it is impossible for a departed soul to communicate with those on Earth through a medium. What Guenon referred to as “psychic residue” Blavatsky and Steiner called “astral shells” when a human dies they leave behind what can be called an “astral shell”. This is the remnant of consciousness left lingering after death. This is not the actual individual soul but is simply a senseless subjective form which eventually disintegrates, usually within a few decades at the most. This “shell” contains a large portion of memories and knowledge which the individual possessed during that lifetime but has no individual consciousness or Being behind it.

Blavatsky said that, “these astral shells or ‘Kama Rupas’ roam senselessly around in the Kama Loka (the astral) and are easily contacted by those with mediumistic tendencies or psychic sensitivity. Since they are able to senselessly repeat and recite certain pieces of information and knowledge which the individual possessed during its life on earth, they are easily mistaken by many to actually be the real soul.”

Guenon confirmed this as well. He wrote that “Since these energies are not unified through a physical body, they generally appear in a fragmentary manner, like the broken shards of a personality that once lived in another body in another time. However, without the constant renewal supplied by the physical body, these energies slowly dissipate; but they can and do continue to exist for long periods of time. Yet such a partial or fragmented entity, even though it is sensed and perceived in dreams and visions [or under hypnosis], and seems real and meaningful to the observer, it does not originate from one’s own self. The apparition, however seemingly real, is only the fragmentary residual energy of a completely different person who happened to live in another time and place. Ghostly phenomena are the effects of mindless and soulless entities, since the True Self or Being that acted as the core of such an entity was retracted back into the Universal Being upon the death of the physical body.”

Some may now ask, “But what about the work of hypnotherapist who regress people to past lives, isn’t that valid? Those people are in deep trance state so surely they aren’t making things up? Where is it coming from?”

Hypnosis is a form of spiritualism (referring to spirits not spiritual); it is purely psychic in nature, not spiritual in nature. This doesn’t make it “wrong” but the distinction must be made and all that is experienced in this state should be considered subjective.

Anecdotal evidence can be interesting but it doesn’t disprove or prove reincarnation as the majority understand it today.

Regarding past life memories, here is the crux of the matter: We interpret what we see, we interpret everything that we experience and filter these impressions through our current belief system. Heightened human consciousness is capable of great expansion; it’s capable of peering into other realities and getting glimpses of Parallel States of Being. But as soon as we attach a narrative to these experiences, we limit our perception of truth.

One may do well to contemplate the following: “How do I know that the glimpse of what we call a “past life” was or is actually me? Can I prove this? Could it be that I am merely experiencing sensations and images from someone else’s life?”.

To reiterate, hypnotism, channeling, spiritualism and mediumship are all psychic in nature. It’s important to distinguish between the psychic and the spiritual. They are different realms and different impulses possibly guided by different beings. This is important to note because evidence points to forces at work in our world that seek to incite confusion and might have, dare I say, their own agenda. .

We can’t go any further in this endeavor without considering these forces. Namely, Lucifer and Ahriman.

Steiner, as well as ancient authors (from Dionysius the Areopagate, pupil of St. Paul) spoke of at least nine orders of Beings — which are called the “hierarchies”. They in no way represent the totality of Beings in the universe but are directly tied to humanity and earth’s destinies.

The proceeding seven paragraphs are not the writing of this author, they are taken directly from an excellent essay entitled, The Advent of Ahriman that can be read in whole here.

“These [aforementioned] spirits are not all “angelic”, in the sense of “good and holy”. Some, sometimes, oppose the regular, good world-order. Ahriman (“the Unjust Prince of this World”) is a “retarded” Spirit of Form, working as an Arch, opposing (in a sense) the good world order. (Yet, this opposition is not purely “evil”, as I will discuss below.) Since Ahriman is a spirit of opposition, we might begin to understand his nature by understanding what he opposes: the Gods’ plan of earthly and human development. But the situation is not as simple as a two-sided contest; basic to competent understanding of the world-process is the recognition of at least three kinds of spiritual influence upon the evolution of mankind and the cosmos. (We must be clear that this “evolution” is something very different from the random, meaningless, material process conceived by the Darwinists and suchlike theorists. I mean by “evolution” a thoroughly purposeful, thought-filled process of development initiated and guided by spiritual beings.)

The normal gods (the regular hierarchies) create and nurture the evolution of the world and mankind, so as to bring about the possibility of Men attaining the status of divinity as “Spirits of Freedom and Love” — the tenth hierarchy. (At the present stage of evolution, the Man progresses through alternating periods of earth-lives and purely spiritual lives: birth, death, and reincarnation.) As the name implies, essential to the fulfillment of mankind’s task is the realization of freedom, meaning not so much political freedom as spiritual freedom — that Men should become independent, unique individuals acting consciously as the originators of their own deeds. Occult wisdom, independently rediscovered and made public by Steiner (and greatly simplified here, to put it mildly), explains this evolution as being created and guided through seven great cosmic ages. We are now in the fourth great age, called the “Earth” Age.

Besides the normal Spirits, a host of abnormal spiritual beings, called “Luciferic”, also influences earthly evolution. In a sense, these oppose the normal Gods’ plans for evolution. The Luciferic beings try to draw mankind away from the normal earth-evolution to their own abnormal psychic-spiritual cosmos of light. In the human soul they inspire pride, egotism, disinterest in one’s fellow Men, fiery emotionalism, subjectivity, fantasy, and hallucination. In the human intellect they inspire generalization, unification, hypothesizing, and the building of imaginative pictures beyond reality.

A third spiritual influence working into human and earthly evolution is the Ahrimanic (also known as “Satanic”). The intention of Ahriman, and his hosts, is to freeze the earth into complete rigidity, so that it will not pass over to the Jupiter, Venus, and Vulcan ages, and to make the Man into an entirely earthly being — unindividualized, unfree, and divorced from the normal Gods’ cosmos. The essential Ahrimanic tendency is to materialize; to crystallize; to darken; to silence; to bring living, mobile forces into fixed form — in other words, to kill that which is living. This tendency in itself, within proper bounds, is not evil; the dead, material world is necessary for the regular Gods’ plan of human and cosmic development. The Ahrimanic tendency is evil only when it exceeds proper bounds, when it reaches into what should be alive — and Ahriman does try to exceed proper bounds. Again, the basic reality of the world is spiritual beings together with their deeds, but Ahriman promotes the illusion, the lie, that matter is the basic reality, or the only reality. In fact, Ahrimanic spirits, not “atoms” or “ultimate particles”, are the reality behind the apparently material world. Ahriman lives upon lies; he is a spirit of untruth, the “Father of Lies”.

To sum up this description of the triad of spiritual streams: The conflicts of human and spiritual life do not derive from a simple, two-sided war between good and evil. It was one of the great insights of Steiner to renew the ancient teaching of the “Golden Mean”, of good as the middle way between opposing extremes. — Lucifer is too warm, too flighty, too unstable; he inspires human fanaticism, false mysticism, hot-bloodedness, and the tendency to flee earthly reality for hallucinatory pleasures. Ahriman is too cold, too hard, too rigid; he tries to make people dry, prosaic, philistine, materialistic in thought and in deed — and hardens what would be healthily mobile, supple thoughts, feelings, and even bodies. Christ, as the Exemplar of the regular Gods, represents the middle way between the too-much and the too-little, holding the opposites in balance — and leading mankind to find the healthy middle way.

Seen this way, Lucifer and Ahriman are not purely evil; they both bring to human and earthly evolution forces that are needed for good, healthy development and the fulfilment of the Gods’ plans. Evil results only when events get out of balance and run to extremes. — However, neither do Lucifer and Ahriman simply oppose each other; in a sense, they work together in opposition to the Gods’ intent for evolution of mankind.

Lucifer draws human spirits away from earthly embodiment toward his own psychic-spiritual “planet” (read “plane”) of light; Ahriman pushes the individual human spirit out of the human organism and away from the earth, so that only a hardened, mechanized, ghostly human organism, devoid of free individuality and living an instinctive-but-clever animalistic species-life remains on the hardened “cosmic slag” of the earth.”

Considering the above, the Ahrimanic influence is obvious in our world; abject materialism, trans-humanism and total disregard for human dignity.

The Luciferian influence is more subtle, trickier to identify but rampant as an impulse in modern spirituality.

Is Reincarnation a Trap?

With that in mind, let’s return the title of this essay: Is reincarnation a trap?

I must answer this question with a question; What theory or reincarnation are you referring to when you call it a ‘trap’?

Consider also how these dire warnings about the ‘trap of reincarnation’ impact others. Dire stories of entrapment evoke paranoia and dis-balance, they dis-empower.

Who would benefit from a population of humans that believed that reincarnation is trap and carry this paranoia with them at death?

It is said that Luciferian forces want to drive human souls to their own plane, the so-called “8th sphere”. Dire warnings such as “don’t go into the light when you pass on!” beg the question: Where would a soul, a unit of individualized awareness, who believes firmly in the modern theory of reincarnation and believes it to be a trap, be guided immediately after death? How about the Luciferian plane where you “never have to reincarnate again, instead you can stay here”. Contemplate this.

Ahrimanic forces want to keep human souls entrapped around the earth. Convincing humans that “reincarnation is a trap and someone is waiting to snatch your soul after death”, would also be very beneficial to Ahriman’s agenda.

I do not claim that the the existence of Lucifer and Ahriman and their agendas are absolute truth. They are however, something to consider.

With that being said, a re-cap:

Linear time is an illusion, therefore the concept of reincarnating inasmuch as it implies “returning to human existence in future lives” is a flawed interpretation of the manifestation of Being.

We most likely exist simultaneously in multiple states of Being.

Reincarnation is a theory with variances on the theme. It is a concept used to help the human mind conceive of eternity, evolution and growth.

Reincarnation is not a “trap”…but unexamined, unquestioned belief in the modern doctrine of reincarnation, if it leads to paranoid conjecture, is.



About the author:
Era Denmark is an autodidact, philosopher and writer whose personal journey and public engagement embraces philosophy and esoterism; not as an end in itself but as an individualized path towards self mastery. Era is a citizen of the world, is trilingual (French, German, English) and resides in Europe.

http://in5d.com/is-reincarnation-a-trap/

Biff
29th June 2017, 14:04
Should We Go Into The Light When We DIE?
Posted on June 8, 2016 by Paulina
Researchers in the fields of NDE’s, Ufology and Conspiracy Theories are currently asking the question ‘Should We Go Into The Light At The Time of Death, Or Should We Avoid It?


Should we go into the light
At this time of our shifting consciousness questions are being asked about the cycle of reincarnation, what the Afterlife really is, and whether the Other Worlds are really just examples of Mind Control and Collective Programming. Some people are saying that when we die we should not go towards the Light, or into the Tunnel as this means that we risk reincarnating for the benefit of deceptive self-serving multi-dimensional beings.

As a result of these changing beliefs, I have had conversations with concerned individuals that have focused on whether or not we should go into the Light – as it may be a trap; and whether or not the Tunnel that people enter is actually the real Afterlife. While these conversations were responses to other people’s ideas, rather than my beliefs or experiences, I think they are important considerations in how we access the truth of who we are, and the truth about the fourth dimension and astral realms.

NDE Experiences and Research into the Light


What happens during an NDE and where do we go?
My NDE experiences occurred in the 1980’s when research about ‘what happened’ and ‘who experienced what’ during an NDE was just becoming an Agenda in the Quest for Understanding – in the fields of Medicine, Psychology, Science and the Paranormal. The idea of a) going towards the Light and b) travelling in a Tunnel to get there, were part of the criteria for definition of experiences. This categorisation helped the experiences to be defined, labelled and quantified, within the confines of the more scientific style of investigating NDE’s, OBE’s and the existence of a ‘Consciousness’ or ‘Conscious Awareness’ after the life of a physical body ends.

Why Is This Question Important

As our understanding of such experiences grows and we more collectively recognise 1) the existence of Other Realms/Worlds; 2) the potential for an Afterlife; and 3) a Control Agenda that has existed for millennia that involves the mind programming of our species; new belief systems are coming forward to be discussed and explored.


Are we the light?
Throughout our history esoteric and spiritual teachings have focused on helping acolytes journey back to source after death – helping them understand how to navigate the fourth dimension; clear their field of the potential energetic manipulation that we can experience in the astral realms; and return to the stars (which I will discuss in my talk ‘NDE’ Activations Encoded by the SOUL‘ at the Afterlife Explorers Conference in January 2017).

In my NDE Experiences I did not go into a Tunnel, but I was pulled by the energy/essence of my Third Eye. I experienced profound Light and the Audible Life Stream. My research into my own experiences with the Afterlife, the Audible Life Stream and the Other Side, as well as my investigations into Buddhist attitudes to death and dying; Eastern Philosophies; Past Lives and the teachings of numerous Indigenous Earth Based Cultures have led me to believe that my Soul ‘knew’ how to navigate these waters and by-pass the potential entrapments of the Astral Realms. This ‘knowing’ was inherited from Past Lives and previous Soul Development and is part of what I came to share in this Life.

Seeking the Truth – Should We Go Into The Light

Learning how to Live our Dying; Clearing our Fields of the Manipulation and Programming; Surrendering to the Truth; Interacting with the Esoteric Wisdom of the Mythic Imprints; and Learning How to Navigate the Fourth Dimension/Astral Realms; are I believe, the pathway forward to our greater understanding of what actually happens when we die. They will also enable humanity – individually and collectively – to discover the cosmic truth and free up any fear and manipulation we hold in our subtle bodies and past life patterning as to whether or not the light is real, is safe, or is part of the programming agenda.


Our definition of life and death changes
We also need to develop our ability to interact with the non-physical realities, learn how to recognise and believe our intuition and live without focusing on the left brain to help us understand the world we live in. The left brain uses sequential thinking that relies on testing, measuring and comparison. This creates separation and judgement, and strengthens fear. It also enables the manipulation/programming agendas.

In my experiences the Afterlife is not a place of separation or judgement where some things are good and others are bad. And it is not a place of loneliness, isolation and uncertainty. The Afterlife is all-knowing, encompassing and liberating. It is timeless and eternal and embodies frequencies that are truly beyond manipulation and fear. We are IT and IT is us, and there is no veil of illusion, only mastery of the frequencies of Light. This Light is who we are, and the steps we take to avoid, embrace, surrender to, or become the Light, are part of our understanding of consciousness and the eternal journey of the SOUL.

Considering these aspects of the Afterlife and what the Light actually consists of, can help each of us answer the questions we may have about the Afterlife and whether or not to go into the light. They will also help to clear our fields of the imprints of fear and misunderstanding that are consistently generated into our collective to help make us muddled, unsure and forgetful of the real truth.

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Biff
29th June 2017, 14:09
The Tunnel and Near Death Experience

One theory used to explain the near-death phenomenon has nothing to do with death at all. It states that NDEs are actually memories of birth. A baby being born leaves the womb to travel down a tunnel towards a light, and what waits for it in the light is usually a great deal of love and warmth. What happens at the point of death is only a stored memory of what happened when life began. Yet again there are a lot of points that don't match: a baby being born does not exactly float at high speed down a tunnel, but is buffeted along with difficulty by its mother's contractions. And how does this model explain the meeting with friends and relatives who have died? The Being of Light is supposed to be the midwife or the doctor who rules the delivery room - but many babies are born without a midwife or doctor present, or perhaps with many people present. On a purely practical level, a baby's nervous system is not sufficiently developed to allow it to assimilate and store memories of the birth process. Those who argue this theory say the feelings of peace and bliss are a memory of the peace of the womb when all physical needs were met by the mother and there were no stresses and strains. Why should this be any more likely than the feelings of peace and bliss are relief from the pain of illness and injury at the point of death? However, being born is often not a pleasant experience for babies which leaves them crying as if in agony. In contrast, NDEs are more often described as the most pleasurable experience a person can have. The birth process is not pleasant. The following information will show you how the NDE tunnel is an experience like none other.

Table of Contents

1. Insights Into the NDE Tunnel Experience
2. Brief Encounters With the NDE Tunnel
3. Extraordinary NDE Tunnel Experiences
4. Edgar Cayce's Extraordinary NDE Tunnel Experiences
5. Skeptic Susan Blackmore on the NDE Tunnel

CoNtinue here: http://www.near-death.com/science/research/tunnel.html

Biff
29th June 2017, 14:17
The Reincarnation section of near-death.com is thought provoking

http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation.html

Biff
29th June 2017, 14:28
Near Death Experience Confirms Theosophy (old school metaphysics)

Near death experiences have opened a wonderful door into vistas of the soul's survival - especially now that modern medical techniques have increased the recovery rate of individuals in hospitals, and now that more people feel free to openly discuss their experiences.

But there is another vantage point. In the late 19th century Madame Blavatsky promulgated a teaching she had received form "those who know". It included many details of "what happens when we die". It included more information than is normally available from those having near death experiences since the knowledge she was teaching, extended from one death on to the next birth.

Dr Jean-Louis Siémons has compared in detail the results of near death experiences reported in the last quarter of the twentieth century with the assertions made by Blavatsky a century earlier concerning the journey of the soul. He demonstrates a very striking congruence. Furthermore, Siémons says "Beyond question, her views on the process of dying were quite original for her epoch."

Since her views were "quite original" for her epoch - and based on her knowledge - and since they are now confirmed by increasing numbers of people having near death experiences - we therefore have a significant confirmation of the validity of her assertions on this subject and her assertions in general. A study of her teachings then gives us a way to learn still more - with confidence - on the survival of the soul and its journey through successive lives. Because Blavatsky was right on the mark, based on this evidence, we can approach her other statements with significantly greater confidence in their validity. We invite you to look.

Below is the article by Siémons. Along with the analysis, it gives an excellent presentation of Theosophy's view on this subject, complete with detailed citations from the Theosophical literature.

Full Article by Jean-Louis Siémons (here: http://www.blavatsky.net/index.php/theosophy-and-science/36-topics/reincarnation/near-death-exp/62-what-is-death )

DNA
29th June 2017, 16:19
Just for the record I believe reincarnation is a process and I trust in the process.
I'm a fan of the Michael Newton regressions in regards to what happens in-between the lives in regards to reincarnation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WySVns7i0fY&list=PLjVam6wrPIw5Ob4ZsTuBVKhGb41rLzgyV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WySVns7i0fY&list=PLjVam6wrPIw5Ob4ZsTuBVKhGb41rLzgyV

I'm also a fan of Edgar Cayce who lectured on reincarnation while in trance, but while not in trance was a hardcore Christian who was blown away by this information.

Biff
29th June 2017, 18:11
On entering the light, or seeing a light being, theosophy and NDE might suggest that this Being/Light is that of the Higher Self, and it often appears as Golden Light.

Avoiding this Golden Light and Being might keep you from a glorious reunion with your Higher Self.

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5. "Entering the Light", or "encountering the being of light" - an imaged interpretation by the personal self of its re-union with its deep-rooted source of self-consciousness.

No wonder that NDE'ers should feel unable to describe their experience in usual terms of daily life language. Like to the prisoners in the famous cave imagined by Plato in his Republic (Book VII), they had been accustomed from birth to the casual spectacle of the world's moving shadows (maya for the Hindus), fettered in their dualistic views (myself, and the others, etc.), and their linear perception of time, flowing between past and future. Then, all of a sudden, the prisoners were set free and drawn out of the cave, to a place enlightened by the sunshine, beyond all familiar limitations. In their ignorance that, at this point, they had returned to their Parent-Self, their psychic machinery interpreted the latter as different from themselves - a welcoming light, or a "being of light" - a personal being. In Moody's words,

It has a very definite personality. The love and the warmth which emanate from this being to the dying person are utterly beyond words, and he feels completely surrounded by it and taken up in it, completely at ease and accepted in the presence of this being.



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He senses an irresistible magnetic attraction to this light. He is ineluctably drawn to it [fn 43:R. Moody, Life after Life, p.59.]



Quite often, in their efforts of description, experiencers use different labels to identify this "presence - God, Christ, Angel, Guide, or what not. Obviously, in their complete ignorance of deep (spiritual) psychology, they could hardly find better terms to translate, in an intelligible mode, this unexpected encounter with their own individual Ego-Self, which seems to "know all about them", to bear them "a total love and acceptance" and to have with them a kind of intimate, "personal" exchange. For very good reasons indeed - in the light of Theosophy - if we remember that this Ego is not a stranger to its terrestrial personality, but remains closely "interested" in its destiny: from birth to death, the transpersonal individuality broods over (or "meditates") its earthly representative (or emanation), registering the latter's behaviour and inspiring it with its own knowledge and energy, through the unspoken language of intuition, dreams, etc.

Interestingly, this theosophical interpretation finds definite echoes in near-death literature. Thus, with Kenneth Ring, we have these pertinent remarks:

Moody spoke of a "being of light" and though none of our respondents used this phrase some seemed to be aware of a "presence" (or "voice") in association with the light[...]. Here we must, I think, make a speculative leap. I submit that this presence voice is actually - oneself! It is not merely a projection of one's personality, however, but one's total self; or what in some traditions is called the higher self. In this view, the individual personality is but a split-off fragment of the total self with which it is reunited at the point of death. During ordinary life, the individual personality functions in a seemingly autonomous way, as though it were a separate entity. In fact, however, it is invisibly tied to the larger self structure of which it is apart". [fn 44:K. Ring. Life at Death, p.240.]



In the Key to Theosophy (p.186) a comparison is made between the Spiritual Ego and its personality with the Vine and the branch, in St John's Gospel (chap.XV). The branch is clearly an offshoot of the vine and it remains tied to it, for the time of its existence. Also, in Ring's words:

An analogy would be that the individual personality is like a child who, when grown up, completely forgets his mother and then fails to recognize her when they later meet [fn: 45Ibid. p 240]



This analogy is also found in the Key (p.184). The Ego being compared to a parent, answerable for the transgressions of the child, the question comes:

- Is the child the personality? - It is.



Equally relevant is the following speculation preferred by Kenneth Ring:

What has this to do with the light? The answer is - or so I would say - that this higher self is so awesome, so overwhelming, so loving, and unconditionally accepting (like an all-forgiving mother) and so foreign to one's individualized consciousness that one perceives it as separate from oneself as unmistakably other. It manifests itself as a brilliant golden light, but it is actually oneself, in a higher form, that one is seeing". [fn 46:Ibid. p 240]



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To conclude, again in Ring's words - perfectly in line with Theosophy:

The golden light is actually a reflection of one's own inherent divine nature and symbolizes the higher self. [fn: 47 Ibid. pp.240-241. In this passage, the term reflection is quite correct. At this stage, this golden light perceived by the dying man is only a very limited effect, on the psychic sphere, of the glorious radiance of the divine universal SELF hidden in the hearts of all creatures, according to the Upanishads.]



The fact that some persons believe that they had "a conversation with God" makes no difference in this context:

Since most people are used to thinking dualistically of God as somehow "up there" while they remain "down here" they can be expected to interpret their experience with their higher self as a direct encounter with God. The idea of "God" is after all; more familiar to most people than is the notion of a higher self. [fn: 48 Ibid. p. 241.]

Excerpt from book linked in post 5 of this thread (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/11164-Is-Reincarnation-A-Trap-(Articles-and-Discussion)?p=841973849&viewfull=1#post841973849)

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Gold Light is not uncommon in NDE. Here are a couple of examples from experiencers:


"Suddenly, I found myself in another dimension. A glowing golden tunnel appeared in front of me. Far, far into the tunnel, almost as if at its distant opening, stood a man dressed in a splendid golden robe ... The Master continued his invitation, but he was so far away. I wanted to fly to him. I knew that this was possible; it was simply a matter of making the decision ... Exiting my body would be an easy choice. I would float through this glorious tunnel and seek the answers the Master had to offer. Yet, just as I slipped into the tunnel something pulled me back. While I was surrendering to the marvelous force that had come to claim me, the hospital staff had worked to pull me out of my coma with massive doses of cortisone. I remember nothing after the tunnel experience until three days later." (Marilyn Gibson)



Robert Coleman's NDE Tunnel Experience: "I was being propelled across a vast distance. I dare not look straight ahead, but I remember looking at the wall flashing past me as I sped along some kind of tunnel. Then, at the other end of this journey, I felt a most beautifully reassuring sense of calm. I looked down at myself in my new form. I had taken on a golden glow. I did not need to walk. I floated. Everything about me was love, goodness and warmth. Suddenly, I felt as if I had been given access to the total knowledge of the universe. I stared at a huge dark wheel containing stars and other celestial bodies that slowly revolved. A deep voice spoke slowly, but I could not make out what it was saying. I was at some kind of entrance ... I had to promise solemnly not to try to return. I agreed. Once more, I stood in front of the great dark disk again. As the stars and shapes slowly revolved, a deep voice said slowly, 'Your time has not yet come.' I felt all the wisdom that I had suddenly gained was being forced out from me. I knew I could not take this knowledge back with me, but was concerned that I might lose what limited intelligence I already had before I died. Then, once again I was in the long tunnel, feeling the wind against my cheek as I looked away and saw the long wall rushing past me." (Robert Coleman)
Experiences taken from article https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/11164-Is-Reincarnation-A-Trap-(Articles-and-Discussion)?p=841973845&viewfull=1#post841973845linked in post 3

Golden Light, white light, is there really a difference?

Dumpster Diver
30th June 2017, 17:38
marking for later review.

DNA
30th June 2017, 18:48
Just as a helpful reminder Biff, sometimes less is more.
Sometimes it is better to boil down what you want to present in the briefest of entries and see if that is enough to spark comment and debate.
I for one tend to be a little put off by so much material when it is presented.
I'm a fan of the material, just rather too lazy when confronted with so much.
Peace. :ninja:

Wind
30th June 2017, 20:27
Michael Newton, Dolores Cannon, Edgar Cayce, The Law of One, NDE-reports, all speak of the reality of the afterlife.

Reincarnation isn't a trap. It's a choice, the whole purpose of our existence is to experience life so that the soul may evolve.

If you believe otherwise then you're not believing in a benevolent creator, which is pure love "ungrudgingly favoring man’s welfare".

Once our souls have evolved enough, we are ready to move closer to God eventually become One with all that is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cujnK4Pizes

Dreamtimer
1st July 2017, 13:42
I haven't finished reading all your posts yet, Biff.

Ever since the first time I heard about reincarnation it made sense to me. It felt right. As in, yeah, that's happening.

I used to have a recurring dream as a child - the only one that fits that description. I was a foot soldier in war walking along a very wide, dirt road. Almost too wide to be a road. There was war going on all around me. Planes dropping bombs, men with guns, tanks, explosions, men screaming... It was pretty awful.

As a little girl I would wake up crying and upset because I was scared but I would forget the dream. As I got older I'd have the dream and recognize the scene and realize I wasn't going to be hurt. I would look around me, knowing this had to end. It was bad for everyone. I first thought the bad guys just needed to put down their guns and then we could talk. But then I realized that we all had to put down our guns or no real talking would ever happen.

I began to yell at everyone around me, including the planes, that we had to stop. This is wrong, we have to stop. Very few heard or listened. A couple men put down their guns and walked away. I was furious. Furious because most people wouldn't listen to me and I didn't think just a few was enough. I would awake from the dream very angry but would still forget it.

When I was nine, I finally recalled the dream while awake. I had had it during the night and seeing some old fashioned pictures had reminded me. It was the only time I've ever had a dream in black and white, but it was really sepia colors. Like old photos.

So my conclusion is that I was in war my last life and didn't die but realized it's futility and probably became anti-war or pacifist or something. I have no idea of any particular identity. I don't really feel the need to know. The life's lesson is more important, imo.

Do I need/want to continue this cycle? There are so many possibilities and permutations. And then there are other worlds and dimensions. Is it something to be escaped or do we reach a point where we just choose where we go? I'm pretty sure I'm heading in the latter direction.


And, just for fun... (https://youtu.be/a3YB1CYBCCQ?t=2m57s)(a little sportlight spotlight)

Elen
1st July 2017, 14:29
Interesting post Dreamtimer. :ht:

lake
1st July 2017, 17:46
If you believe otherwise then you're not believing in a benevolent creator, which is pure love "ungrudgingly favoring man’s welfare".



May I ask, as I have been searching for a long time, could you provide me with 3 examples of a "benevolent creator"?

One regarding the interaction of 'humans' within this realm, one for other animals and one for plant life?

But may I ask you to leave the rose colored glasses at the door and see that 'Beauty is only skin deep'!

Wind
1st July 2017, 20:25
May I ask, as I have been searching for a long time, could you provide me with 3 examples of a "benevolent creator"?

One regarding the interaction of 'humans' within this realm, one for other animals and one for plant life?

But may I ask you to leave the rose colored glasses at the door and see that 'Beauty is only skin deep'!

Are you asking me to prove the existence of a benevolent Creator?

I am not sure how I can explain the obvious when words cannot even begin to describe God!

"God is a mystery which no man can truly understand, no language can really express, and no idea can fully embody."

I have always believed in the goodness of God. More profoundly it can be seen and felt in innocence and closest thing to that Source would be nature, animals and children.

I can assure you I'm not wearing any rose colored glasses, in fact I often tend to view this human life with a bit of cynicism (and dark humour) these days. This place can be a real mess. Dark forces have been guiding humanity for far too long... But ultimately the good shall prevail, which is operated by the will of the God. If we have been living for far too long in the dark, some of us may have forgotten how bright the sun (or the light of the divine) can be.

Amanda
2nd July 2017, 02:33
Biff - You have shared much information and as such I shall return to this thread to read through it all. In essence I don't question the theory of reincarnation but I do question its purpose. Let's suppose that reincarnation is an actuality - for the purposes of an open and peaceful discussion.

Reincarnation is real and everyone, every sentient being can return to planet Earth in the form/vessel/physical embodiment of any particular person or animal. To what end? Should we all have been reincarnated many many many times - at this juncture of our history - then surely we would be wise enough to know that war and money have to be stopped - permanently. Yes/No/Maybe???

When I read of people who have had a regression/hypnotherapy session, the people for the most part seem to have had a reasonable life. I have hardly read any accounts of a poor person or a starving person or a homeless person who lives a life of hardship and returning to live - what? Returning to live a life above their last life??? That is where I become full of questions. In short: If we have all lived many lives by now - surely the society in which we live would be peaceful and no one would be living in harm or wanting for basics like clean water and food. Surely we would all be much wiser for our having lived many lives????

Edgar Cayce refers to an interaction he had with a young boy, while waiting for his turn at a barber shop. The young boy offered him a lolly from the bag he had and his father told him not to annoy the man. The young boy stated: He gave me his food when I had none. Now anyone acquainted with Edgar Cayce will know of his incredible giftedness and his work to help anyone with an illness. It appears that the young boy and Edgar Cayce had shared an intolerable experience when they were alive at the same time. Now that is a very profound experience and given that Edgar Cayce and his work lives on to this very day - I shall have to submit to the fact that reincarnation is a very strong possibility.

But - I still ask: To what end? For what purpose? Is it an endless cycle? Do we visit to learn only???

Much Respect & Much Peace - As we search for answers - Amanda

viena
2nd July 2017, 07:05
Wow. Everything is mixed up and (deliberately) confused (by the rulers, overseers). Lots of text, much of it rings true to me, too. I think that's one of the trickiest things: Opposing, apparently contradictory and even mutually exclusive points of view can be valid and true - just on different levels/in different contexts, or often only within their own certain limited reference frames.

Reincarnation: what if we had only one term/narrative for two completely separate concepts/processes: free, self-aware and divine beings roaming the universe who decide to do series of incarnations in different worlds, out of their free will - or generations of slaves fed into the infamous machinery. Maybe the latter is just an artificial, malicious imitation of the former. I wished we could identify the point in time where that started (along the lines of a cosmic war) - to proceed from there, in both directions.

Aianawa
2nd July 2017, 09:37
Crickey, am in a big catch up mode atm also, cheers for adding to the read n watch list that is far too long Biff, lol.

Amanda
3rd July 2017, 00:17
Viena - Wow just wow. You summed up your view so eloquently and I love love love it. What you suggest infers that we - everyone - have to get their act together and just get to the correct side of the equation - as it were ....

Much Respect & Much Peace - Amanda

viena
3rd July 2017, 08:56
Thank you for the kind words, Amanda. Getting their act together, yes, sigh . .

And then: will I choose the familiar, intimately known misery (of forced life cycles and cycles) again - which I may not find that miserable at all, in hindsight and compared to others - or will I take a path I know nothing about except a few bits of hearsay and rumors. Will I risk everything I think I know for a vague idea of 'freedom'? I have always been sneaking around close to my (matrix-) border walls (often lost and desparate), well aware of the watchtowers. Never felt comfortable, with questions like this in mind.

Amanda
4th July 2017, 00:51
Viena et al - You seem to me, even though just via typed words on a computer, to be wide awake and very much aware. When a person is awake and aware - then progress is always possible. Perhaps, just perhaps, just proposing a theory is this: Even with a seemingly endless cycle of re-incarnation - maybe eventually we all learn and share what we learn. So - as people enter the awakened state being 'recycled' as it were - makes the conscience and spirit and soul stronger and wiser each time????

Much Respect & Much Peace - As we all seek answers - Amanda

DNA
4th July 2017, 15:26
I shall have to submit to the fact that reincarnation is a very strong possibility.

But - I still ask: To what end? For what purpose? Is it an endless cycle? Do we visit to learn only???

Hi Amanda.
I'm of the opinion that we can sift through so much silt and grime when attempting to find true gold in terms of our search in this area.
I've done a lot of picking through the muck. There is just so much muck out there.
But I've been lucky in my searches too, and more than luck at times it seems there is serendipity involved. :)
When I was 22 I dated a beautiful girl my age, we only dated for a couple of months and we parted amiably, but she had given me a book that seemed truly remarkable and I had found great truth in it.
This book was a parting gift she had given me and she died less than a year later, complications due to lupus.
I was never able to truly thank her for the book, and part of me had felt that her giving it to me was truly a gift orchestrated by our spiritual guardians.

This book was the Michael Teachings by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro.
A Channeled work.
But unlike any channeled work I've ever read. There are no promises everything is going to be alright, there are no attempts at sounding angelic and unquestionable, the entity often states that it is of utmost importance to remain skeptical at all times and the entity would rather we throw it's message in the trash than to become unquestioning followers.

The work states that there is absolute oneness when in the Tao or void and that we all came from the Tao.
When we are born as a soul, a group of approximately 1,000 souls breaks off from the Tao, this group of 1,000 usually breaks off with 2 or 3 other groups, sister groups.
You then begin incarnating and as you acquire experience you begin to level up so to speak.
As you incarnate, you often will choose to incarnate so that you have members of your sister groups in your life.
This is because you have a bond with these folks.
You do not usually choose to incarnate with souls from your own soul group because the bond is often too strong and overwhelming, and would leave you not accomplishing much other than enjoying the company of your soul group member.
There are five souls ages, or levels, each age takes approximately 2-3 thousand years to get through.

1. Infant 2. Baby 3. Young 4. Mature 5. Old

Strangely enough there are many countries out there that are in these specific cycles as well.

This chart shows roughly how the world is now comprised.

http://www.michaelteachings.com/images/soul-age-percentage.png

Another fascinating and absolutely interesting part of the Michael Teachings would be the idea of Chief Features.
For some this is absolutely fascinating and illuminating to no end but for others it is sometimes terrifying and revealing to the point of making one feel unoriginal and or very finite in the sense that the ego is not entirely organic but constructed, and for those who feel that they identify with their ego more than they do not it can be very painful indeed.

The Michael Teachings lead you on a journey that includes an anatomical lesson in so far as how an ego is constructed.
One learns and begins to understand that the ego is a spiritual parasite one picks out like one would a suite of clothing, and that this ego is a learning construct designed to teach, without one we would all be on a par with the most enlightend folks who have ever walked the planet, the only problem with this is there is very little learning to be accomplished in such a setting. So we crank up the difficulty level by subjecting ourselves to the tyranny of the ego.

Not only does it benefit one to personally understand your own chief feature and ego so as to be more understanding with your own predicament, it helps soo much in understanding loved ones and family members.
Understanding the chief feature makes it possible to understand why people do such incredibly irrational things, and why change is so difficult and rarely seen even when folks have the insight to see and agree that this is the case.

Amanda
4th July 2017, 23:02
DNA - et all - Yes just yes to all you have shared above. I have seen Students who are what we might call: 'Old Souls' and they are everywhere. As a Teacher you can nurture and guide them but they already have a sense of why they are here. I had one Young Woman explain to me - in detail - exactly why she was on planet Earth. Homo Noeticus - New Human. We are evolving but with that growth we must include Respect and Peace - it is essential.

Respect - is the only rule in my classroom - it applies to me and to all we do as we learn. I also know that my Students teach me. Not sure all Teachers think that way but for me - the moment I completed my (Earthly) training and was in a classroom on my own - THAT - is the moment I truly started to learn. Am waffling now ... will stop and let the thread stay with the topic.

Much Respect & Much Peace - Amanda

Dumpster Diver
5th July 2017, 02:39
Hi Amanda.
I'm of the opinion that we can sift through so much silt and grime when attempting to find true gold in terms of our search in this area.
I've done a lot of picking through the muck. There is just so much muck out there.
But I've been lucky in my searches too, and more than luck at times it seems there is serendipity involved. :)
When I was 22 I dated a beautiful girl my age, we only dated for a couple of months and we parted amiably, but she had given me a book that seemed truly remarkable and I had found great truth in it.
This book was a parting gift she had given me and she died less than a year later, complications due to lupus.
I was never able to truly thank her for the book, and part of me had felt that her giving it to me was truly a gift orchestrated by our spiritual guardians.

This book was the Michael Teachings by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro.
A Channeled work.
But unlike any channeled work I've ever read. There are no promises everything is going to be alright, there are no attempts at sounding angelic and unquestionable, the entity often states that it is of utmost importance to remain skeptical at all times and the entity would rather we throw it's message in the trash than to become unquestioning followers.

The work states that there is absolute oneness when in the Tao or void and that we all came from the Tao.
When we are born as a soul, a group of approximately 1,000 souls breaks off from the Tao, this group of 1,000 usually breaks off with 2 or 3 other groups, sister groups.
You then begin incarnating and as you acquire experience you begin to level up so to speak.
As you incarnate, you often will choose to incarnate so that you have members of your sister groups in your life.
This is because you have a bond with these folks.
You do not usually choose to incarnate with souls from your own soul group because the bond is often too strong and overwhelming, and would leave you not accomplishing much other than enjoying the company of your soul group member.
There are five souls ages, or levels, each age takes approximately 2-3 thousand years to get through.

1. Infant 2. Baby 3. Young 4. Mature 5. Old

Strangely enough there are many countries out there that are in these specific cycles as well.

This chart shows roughly how the world is now comprised.

http://www.michaelteachings.com/images/soul-age-percentage.png

Another fascinating and absolutely interesting part of the Michael Teachings would be the idea of Chief Features.
For some this is absolutely fascinating and illuminating to no end but for others it is sometimes terrifying and revealing to the point of making one feel unoriginal and or very finite in the sense that the ego is not entirely organic but constructed, and for those who feel that they identify with their ego more than they do not it can be very painful indeed.

The Michael Teachings lead you on a journey that includes an anatomical lesson in so far as how an ego is constructed.
One learns and begins to understand that the ego is a spiritual parasite one picks out like one would a suite of clothing, and that this ego is a learning construct designed to teach, without one we would all be on a par with the most enlightend folks who have ever walked the planet, the only problem with this is there is very little learning to be accomplished in such a setting. So we crank up the difficulty level by subjecting ourselves to the tyranny of the ego.

Not only does it benefit one to personally understand your own chief feature and ego so as to be more understanding with your own predicament, it helps soo much in understanding loved ones and family members.
Understanding the chief feature makes it possible to understand why people do such incredibly irrational things, and why change is so difficult and rarely seen even when folks have the insight to see and agree that this is the case.

Great way to hook an Aspie stat geek: put up a frequency distribution. It looks Gaussian (Normal):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution

but could be Log-Normal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log-normal_distribution

But whoever did the binning, Infant...Old, needed to be much more precise to really tie down the distribution...is infant 0-2 years? 0-1 years? Likewise for the other age bins.

DNA
5th July 2017, 13:49
Great way to hook an Aspie stat geek: put up a frequency distribution. It looks Gaussian (Normal):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution

but could be Log-Normal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log-normal_distribution

But whoever did the binning, Infant...Old, needed to be much more precise to really tie down the distribution...is infant 0-2 years? 0-1 years? Likewise for the other age bins.

I started explaining here, but after I read it I realized I had just made things more confusing.
This is where I got the graph and I'm sure you will find a better explanation there. http://www.michaelteachings.com/soul_age_index.html

Jengelen
5th July 2017, 19:44
There is just one spark and there has always only been one. That spark goes and goes and goes and reincarnation is a part of it because the one being that is that spark recycles itself over and over and over so as to never die, never become the absence of light! So long as the cycle continues the spark goes on. There is no individual there is just this one being, this one spark fooling itself into thinking it is many and waking up anew as a fresh blank clean slate with each awareness complete amnesia intact, so sense of who or what they are and it's all new again as if it's the first time. Oh every now and then from simply repeating the same experiences over and over and over so many times it's pathetic it seems dejavu makes it seem this is familiar but that is the one being remembering just glimpses from before and nothing more. In time the overwhelming environment of physical life causes one to become sidetracked once again and the forgetting is once more in place. Reincarnation is the escape from boredom by the one being as it births, reproduces and dies in continuous cycles to cheat death and boredom. This way the one being lives forever and the best part is the entire time it's all fresh and new each time regardless of the experience.