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Tribe
13th October 2013, 13:53
http://youtu.be/qug9XD6y0BE

When I saw this film coming out I thought ugh here we go American propaganda film , to discredit !
And now we have this ..

Julian Assange’s letter to Benedict Cumberbatch

On October 9th WikiLeaks published the first letter from Julian Assange to Benedict Cumberbatch regarding “The Fifth Estate”, a Dreamworks movie about WikiLeaks set to open in the UK on Friday 11 Oct, and in the US on Friday 18 Oct. The press release about this letter is here. The letter was sent to Benedict Cumberbatch after he made overtures to contact Julian Assange in January this year, immediately before principal photography commenced.

Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013
From: Julian Assange
To: Benedict Cumberbatch
Subject: Message from Assange

Dear Benedict,

Thank you for trying to contact me. It is the first approach by anyone from the Dreamworks production to me or WikiLeaks.

My assistants communicated your request to me, and I have given it a lot of thought and examined your previous work, which I am fond of.

I think I would enjoy meeting you.

The bond that develops between an actor and a living subject is significant.

If the film reaches distribution we will forever be correlated in the public imagination. Our paths will be forever entwined. Each of us will be granted standing to comment on the other for many years to come and others will compare our characters and trajectories.

But I must speak directly.

I hope that you will take such directness as a mark of respect, and not as an unkindness.

I believe you are a good person, but I do not believe that this film is a good film.

I do not believe it is going to be positive for me or the people I care about.

I believe that it is going to be overwhelmingly negative for me and the people I care about.

It is based on a deceitful book by someone who has a vendetta against me and my organisation.

In other circumstances this vendetta may have gone away, but our conflict with the United States government and the establishment press has created a patronage and commissioning market – powerful, if unpopular – for works and comments that are harmful to us.

There are dozens of positive books about WikiLeaks, but Dreamworks decided to base its script only on the most toxic. So toxic is the first book selected by Dreamworks that it is distributed to US military bases as a mechanism to discourage military personnel from communicating with us. Its author is publicly known to be involved in the Dreamworks production in an ongoing capacity.

Dreamworks’ second rights purchase is the next most toxic, biased book. Published and written by people we have had a bitter contractual dispute with for years, whose hostility is well known. Neither of these two books were the first to be published and there are many independent authors who have written positive or neutral books, all of whom Dreamworks ignored.

Dreamworks has based its entire production on the two most discredited books on the market.

I know the film intends to depict me and my work in a negative light.

I believe it will distort events and subtract from public understanding.

It does not seek to simplify, clarify or distil the truth, but rather it seeks to bury it.

It will resurrect and amplify defamatory stories which were long ago shown
to be false.



My organisation and I are the targets of political adversary from the United States government and its closest allies.

The United States government has engaged almost every instrument of its justice and intelligence system to pursue—in its own words—a ‘whole of government’ investigation of ‘unprecedented scale and nature’ into WikiLeaks under draconian espionage laws. Our alleged sources are facing their entire lives in the US prison system. Two are already in it. Another one is detained in Sweden.

Feature films are the most powerful and insidious shapers of public perception, because they fly under the radar of conscious exclusion.

This film is going to bury good people doing good work, at exactly the time that the state is coming down on their heads.

It is going to smother the truthful version of events, at a time when the truth is most in demand.

As justification it will claim to be fiction, but it is not fiction. It is distorted truth about living people doing battle with titanic opponents. It is a work of political opportunism, influence, revenge and, above all, cowardice.

It seeks to ride on the back of our work, our reputation and our struggles.

It seeks to cut our strength with weakness. To cut affection with exploitation. To cut diligence with paranoia. To cut loyalty with naivety. To cut principle with hypocrisy. And above all, to cut the truth with lies.

The film’s many distortions buttress what the prosecution will argue. Has argued. Is arguing. In my case, and in that of others. These cases will continue for years.

The studio that is producing the film is not a vulnerable or weak party.

Dreamworks’ free speech rights are not in jeopardy – ours are.

Dreamworks is an extremely wealthy organisation, with ties to powerful interests in the US government.

I must therefore question the choices and motives behind it: the opportunism, fears and mundanity; the unwritten rules of film financing and distribution in the United States; the cringe against doing something useful and brave.

I believe that you are a decent person, who would not naturally wish to harm good people in dire situations.



You will be used, as a hired gun, to assume the appearance of the truth in order to assassinate it. To present me as someone morally compromised and to place me in a falsified history. To create a work, not of fiction, but of debased truth.

Not because you want to, of course you don’t, but because, in the end, you are a jobbing actor who gets paid to follow the script, no matter how debauched.

Your skills play into the hands of people who are out to remove me and WikiLeaks from the world.

I believe that you should reconsider your involvement in this enterprise.

Consider the consequences of your cooperation with a project that vilifies and marginalises a living political refugee to the benefit of an entrenched, corrupt and dangerous state.

Consider the consequences to people who may fall into harm because of this film.

Many will fight against history being blackwashed in this way. It is a collective history now, involving millions of people, because millions have opened their eyes as a result of our work and the attempts to destroy us.

I believe you are well intentioned but surely you can see why it is a bad idea for me to meet with you.

By meeting with you, I would validate this wretched film, and endorse the talented, but debauched, performance that the script will force you to give.

I cannot permit this film any claim to authenticity or truthfulness. In its current form it has neither, and doing so would only further aid the campaign against me.

It is contrary to my interests, and to those of my organisation, and I thank you for your offer, and what I am sure is your genuine intent, but I must, with inexpressible regret, turn it down.

Julian Assange

Calabash
13th October 2013, 17:33
Wow - what a letter.

Here is a response from Cumberbatch:

http://static.euronews.com/articles/242072/606x341_242072.jpg?1381654045



"British actor Benedict Cumberbatch says a letter from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange asking him not to do a movie about the emergence of the anti-secrecy website affected his portrayal of him in the upcoming film “The Fifth Estate.”

Cumberbatch, 37, said in an “ask me anything” interview on content-sharing site Reddit on Friday that he was concerned with playing the part after Assange sent him a letter in January declining an invitation to meet in person and urging him to rethink his involvement in the film. “To have the man you are about to portray ask you intelligently and politely not to do it gave me real cause for concern, however, it galvanized me into addressing why I was doing this movie,” Cumberbatch said in response to a user asking him whether Assange’s letter affected his role in the film.

Assange’s letter dated Jan. 15 and published on the WikiLeaks website on Wednesday, called the actor a “hired gun” and criticized Walt Disney Co’s DreamWorks studio for using “toxic” source material as a foundation for the film, based partly on the 2011 book “Inside WikiLeaks” by Assange’s former lieutenant Daniel Domscheit-Berg.

The WikiLeaks founder is holed up at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London after being given political asylum by Ecuador. He faces immediate arrest and extradition to Sweden to face accusations of rape and sexual assault if he leaves the embassy. Cumberbatch rejected Assange’s comment, saying: “He accuses me of being a ‘hired gun’ as if I am an easily bought cypher for right-wing propaganda. Not only do I NOT operate in a moral vacuum but this was not a pay day for me at all.”

Cumberbatch, who plays the WikiLeaks founder as rude, awkward and unkempt, said he believed the film focused on the success of WikiLeaks and celebrated “its extraordinary founder,” Assange, while exploring the impact the website had on the people at the core of it. He said he hoped “The Fifth Estate,” which opens in U.S. theaters on Oct. 18, would start a conversation.

“I wanted to create a three-dimensional portrait of a man far more maligned in the tabloid press than he is in our film to remind people that he is not just the weird, white haired Australian dude wanted in Sweden, hiding in an embassy behind Harrods,” the actor added."

IMO I think his accent is crap (am I allowed to write crap?) - and sounds nothing like Julian Asange

Tribe
13th October 2013, 17:48
I think the whole thing is crap, I have a unconscious dislike of cumberwitch anyway , I think his response is none sense , if he wants to cosey up to the elite that's up to him , but the bed he makes is not one of comfort !

777
14th October 2013, 08:52
I shall make an extra affort to avoid this!

Sooz
14th October 2013, 09:13
IMO I think his accent is crap (am I allowed to write crap?) - and sounds nothing like Julian Asange

Regardless of whether it's a hit piece, I think it's very good casting. And speaking as an Aussie, he has Assange's accent absolutely down pat - it sounds just like him! The nasal bit, the pauses, the nuances, the syntax - it's all there.

There are some different Ozzy accents. Assange's accent is what we would call a cultured Ozzy accent (lol), whereas Julia Gillard and Bob Hawke (ex politicians) have very broad, nasal Ozzy accents. Now Bob Hawke was a Rhodes Scholar - that doesn't mean he would have a 'cultured' ozzy accent, strangely enough.

There is a bit of nonsense for you....which is neither here nor there, lol...:hugs:

lovelypeace
18th October 2013, 20:19
Now I get why my husband wants to see this movie! I was taken aback when he mentioned being interested in this film. (He has an uber mancrush on Benedict Cumberbatch at the moment) I hadn't heard about the movie and he's not a big fan of Julian Assange. But now....It all makes sense.

I figured the movie was a "hit job", but honestly, if the movie gets me alone time with my husband, then I'm all for it. 8-)

Thanks for giving me a clue!