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    Seikilos epitaph is the oldest surviving complete song in the world

    While you live, shine

    have no grief at all

    life exists only for a short while

    and time demands an end.

    If you wonder what is this, wonder no more, because what you see above is where it all started, music-wise. It will be redundant to write about where the music industry is right now, we are all aware of it. What we want to talk about is how it all started, and it all started in Ancient Greece.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVYSrEuTP5A


    The Seikilos epitaph is the oldest surviving complete musical composition, including musical notation, from anywhere in the world. The epitaph has been dated variously from around 200 BC to around AD 100, but the first century AD is the mostprobable guess. The song, the melody of which is recorded, alongside its lyrics, in the ancient Greek musical notation, was found engraved on a tombstone, a stele, near Aydın, Turkey (not far from Ephesus). It is a Hellenistic Ionic song in either the Phrygian octave species or Iastian tonos. While older music with notation exists (for example the Hurrian songs), all of it is in fragments; the Seikilos epitaph is unique in that it is a complete, though short, composition.


    Marble stele, the so-called Seikilos column, with poetry and musical notation.

    The Epitaph was discovered in 1883 by Sir W. M. Ramsay in Tralleis, a small town near Aidin. According to one source the stele was then lost and rediscovered in Smyrna in 1922, at about the end of the Greco-Turkish War of 1919–1922


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    According to another source the stele, having first been discovered during the building of the railway next to Aydin, had first remained at the possession of the building firm’s director Edward Purser, where Ramsay found and published about it; in about 1893, as it “was broken at the bottom, its base was sawn off straight so that it could stand and serve as a pedestal for Mrs Purser’s flowerpots”; this caused the loss of one line of text, i.e., while the stele would now stand upright, the grinding had obliterated the last line of the inscription.




    The inscription in detail.Source

    The stele next passed to Edward Purser’s son-in-law, Mr Young, who kept it in Buca, Smyrna. It remained there until the defeat of the Greeks, having been taken by the Dutch Consul for safe keeping during the war; the Consul’s son-in-law later brought it by way of Constantinople and Stockholm to The Hague; it remained therein until 1966, when it was acquired by the Department of Antiquites of the National Museum of Denmark (Nationalmuseet), a museum situated at Copenhagen.

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    there are older much secret songs from the dawn of time they allow anyone to take the form of any animal I heard a shaman speak of it on YouTube there is a
    catch you must sacrifice someone you love ( person ) to make it work


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    Quote Originally posted by jonsnow View Post
    there are older much secret songs from the dawn of time they allow anyone to take the forum of any animal I heard a shaman speak of it on YouTube there is a
    catch you must sacrifice someone you love ( person ) to make it work

    Sounds like a song not worth playing. It would have to be demonic and serve a dark purpose.
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    Quote Originally posted by jonsnow View Post
    they allow anyone to take the forum of any animal I heard a shaman speak of it on YouTube
    I'm a dog person so I would probably take the forum that dogs are using. But I probably wouldn't be able to understand anything they posted.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    I'm a dog person so I would probably take the forum that dogs are using. But I probably wouldn't be able to understand anything they posted.
    I think he meant to write "form", rather than "forum", Brother.
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    bsbray my bad ( form ) I have included the link it is worth watching if interested

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    The lost city of the Grand Canyon ( Indian city underground )

    Expedition to Sipapu-"Grand Canyon's Lost City"

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27puuu2OnmU


    The seeker looking for this place will find little because the United States built a railway line to this place decades ago and rumour says most of the stuff was dumped in Pacific Ocean
    Is most of our history wrong ???
    The area Sipapu is very restricted with lots of helicopters flying in a no fly zone and the land was on a Indian reservation but not anymore because a 100 million dollar casino was given in exchange for the land around Sipapu
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    I think he meant to write "form", rather than "forum", Brother.
    I know, I was just having fun with him.

    I don't know what to think of Native American shape-shifting stories except that they're some of the weirdest stories I've come across. The Grand Canyon was probably carved out in a relatively short period of time by a catastrophic flood from nearly instant melting of glaciers during the last glacial maximum. This was the same impact/melting event that Graham Hancock talks about creating the Badlands near the Canadian border.

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    I thought your dog forum comment was very funny bsbray. Mr. Icke was recently saying that shape shifting is a product of being in a hologram. The only shape shifting I've experienced happens in dreams.

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