[Bunk] Parallel Universe: The Mandela Effect

[Aragorn]

You've just reminded me of the Lord's Prayer as I learnt it at school, which was this version:

Our Father, which art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread
And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil
For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory forever, Amen.

As you can see from the language I must come from a bygone era, haha. In the second last line, 'deliver us from evil' takes on a different slant as 'deliver us from the evil one', doesn't it? I don't regard or feel that as evidence of a parallel reality though, but more of a shift in collective focus toward concepts of evil...and reality.

I was just about to say i remember the lords prayer exactly as you typed it then. Funily enough, i also come from perth. I wonder if theres any correlation there?

Just for the record, I would like to comment here that the text of Christian prayers is indeed actively being changed these days, albeit that it's got nothing to do with a purported convergence between multiple parallel realities. Mind you, I am not saying that such a convergence may not be happening. I don't know. I prefer to examine the alleged evidence before jumping to any conclusions.

The real reason as to why the religious texts and prayers are changing is simply that it's an official and canonical attempt at modernizing the prayers. I've actually read about this in the Dutch-spoken mainstream news only about a week ago or so, and the article contained a copy of the new Dutch version of the above-quoted prayer.

Of course, some religious people have for a while already been saying that the texts of scriptures and prayers, and the religious rituals, would all be changed because Satan has taken over the Roman Catholic Church. And strangely enough, a woman who claimed to be channelling Jesus — as well as God and Mother Mary — has already announced this change two to three years ago.

Now, I don't subscribe to any religions, and while I do believe that this woman would be channelling something, I don't believe for one second that it would be either Jesus, Mary or God. But it's interesting nevertheless that the entity identifying as "Jesus" through this woman was manically ranting about the changes in the scriptures and the rituals as being satanic and masonic. It seemed to be the only thing he really cared about, and like I said, this was two to three years ago. This "Jesus" also stated that Pope Francis is in league with the Antichrist and that Pope Benedict XVI was the last pope who was officially chosen by "Jesus" to lead "his church".

Once again, I'm not going to be jumping to any conclusions, because quite frankly, I don't have even the faintest idea what's going on with this. I also don't feel like feeding into any fear porn about the coming of the Antichrist, the Beast, the false prophets or whatever other "fire & brimstone" events, because as far as I'm concerned, organized religions themselves have already been as satanic as it gets from the moment of their inception on. Nothing new under the sun.

On the other hand, I cannot deny that there's a certain prophecy being fulfilled here. Again, I have no idea what it means. All I can do is point it out.

[Divine Feminine]

I'm a little late to the party, but wanted to offer some unexplored content that might relate to the issue of the Mandela Effect. Coast to Coast recently had Dr. Bruce Goldberg on as a guest. You can listen here:
http://jandeane81.com/threads/9377-C...ns-26-May-2016


Dr. Bruce Goldberg

He discusses parallel universes and how to access them. I haven't explored his methods personally, but I'm wondering if this might explain the above phenomena. He teaches a specific technique for the process; but is it possible people are doing something automatically that's so subtle they don't even realize they're accessing different parallels on their own, hence experiences that are enforcing the existence of the Mandela Effect? Check it out if you have time it's not too long of an interview, maybe this is the missing link?

Dr. Goldberg talks fast so listen closely...You may get the impression he sounds like a snake oil salesman because of it, but I can tell you, being a researcher myself, when you spend hours accumulating information up in your brain, you have a tendency to talk fast because you're trying to get every bit of information out that you've discovered so others can learn from what you've acquired. Also, Goldberg lives in California, like I once did, and Californians have a tendency to talk rapidly due to the fast pace life of their surroundings, especially Southern California where traffic is ridiculous and everyone is in a hurry, so take that into consideration when listening. I found him a little difficult to follow as when you're hearing new information, the brain needs a little time to process and absorb.

My own Mandela Effect off the top of my head if this qualifies, is the Lord's Prayer as Joanna has written with the exception of one word change...Our Father who art in Heaven.....so 'who' not 'which'. The other is the word dilemma. I seem to remember spelling it dilemna.

From Coast to Coast website:

"First hour guest(coast to coast am), expert in hypnosis and time travel, Dr. Bruce Goldberg, discussed parallel universes and how to safely travel to the fifth dimension. He shared the case of a depressed Los Angeles woman whom he took through a hypnotic progression in which she experienced various future "frequencies"-- parallel universes of different possibilities from poor to average to ideal. By focusing on the future life she wanted among the options, she was able to manifest it into her life, he explained. When attempting to visit the astral plane or higher dimensions, Goldberg suggested low light conditions with minimal noise, wearing loose fitting or no clothes, and avoiding drugs or alcohol.
Dr. Bruce Goldberg holds advanced degrees in dentistry and Counseling Psychology and conducts a thriving international hypnotherapy practice in Los Angeles that specializes in reincarnation, time travel and consciousness raising. In 1987 he was inducted into the International Hypnosis Hall of Fame. Dr. Goldberg has written 18 books and over two dozen scientific articles on his work. He has appeared on several national television programs and has conducted over 35,000 past life regressions and future life progressions on over 14,000 patients since 1974. His first book, Past Lives, Future Lives, was the very first book ever written on taking patients into future lives. His second book, The Search For Grace, was made into a CBS movie. His newer books which include, Past Lives, Future Lives Revealed, Ascension and Spirit Guide Contact Through Hypnosis, teach how to time travel, meet time travelers, leave our body and grow spiritually."

PS This topic must be running the airwaves or something as Clyde Lewis was discussing the Mandela Effect on his show, Ground Zero, about week ago...all the same points being discussed here.

EDIT TO ADD:

For example Sylvie's conclusion video discusses parallel reality. She said that people who have grown to have a taste for parasitic reality will continue on in that reality while others will get to experience a peaceful reality.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7Ao68g0Bw

She said it would take 400 years to happen but I think this Mandela effect is evidence that it is happening right now. If we are lucky maybe all those evil Illuminati types will simply get erased. They will become nothing more than a figment of our imaginations because they don't exist in the new shifted reality.

What Sylvie was talking about is based on the Vedic texts. I have some knowledge of Vedic scriptures but I am by no means an expert. Another mystic a few years back described it multi reality as a radio station. Some stations play classical music while other play heavy metal and all you have to do is change the dial if you don't like what you are listening to.

I'll try and listen to this video you mentioned Novusod, she might be saying the same thing as Goldberg...I think I'm understanding better how this is possible....the realities are taking place all around you, which dimension you're in is determined by your choices.

[bsbray]

There are literally hundreds of Bible translations into English. They don't each take place in a parallel reality and then teleport here through a dimensional warp to reach us. They are all printed here the same way as any book is printed, with a press.

Here are various translations of the Lord's Prayer: http://www.csdirectory.com/biblestudy/lords-prayer.pdf

I've been curious about Goldberg's ideas for a while. He could be right, and he could be wrong. I'm willing to entertain the idea. But I'll say again that if anyone wants to actually prove any of this then they are going to have to come up with a testable hypothesis that excludes all other possibilities. That would be the logical and reasonable thing to do, to test the idea. Human fallibility and ignorance are enough to explain why people remember things wrong 99% of the time as far as I'm concerned.

[lookbeyond]

Im wondering if the feeling of deja vu has anything to do with "parallel timelines", makes sense somewhat, moving between timelines anawares..

bsbray, with respect, not everything in life can be proven, i have had experiences that i am unable to prove to anyone else,this does not mean that they did not and can not occur, maybe some things in our lives just are, and their nature prevents "proof" ?, lb

[Divine Feminine]

I hear ya bsbray and I don't think how each of us remember bible phrases is an indication of the mandela effect either, I just brought it up to affirm what others were saying on the same topic. A proper protocol might help to establish any proof of a 'mandela effect', if that's even possible.

But what do you guys think of this idea...What if your decisions determine what reality you're in? Since we know words and beliefs vibrate at a frequency and that beliefs create realities,(thank you Biology of Belief and the Study of Epigenetics).. couldn't that in essence establish a dimension? I would say the answer is yes. So your choices have vibrational meaning which falls in line with your beliefs...So maybe it's not that you actually 'go' to another place, but rather the reality/dimension you experience is based on the vibratory rate of your choices, hense resulting in multiple dimensions happening right before your eyes? And could this be why you have variances within a dimension such as a lower 5D and an upper 5D? Maybe I'm making it too simple.....I'm sure it's more complex than this and I could be completely off here, but I can see how this theory would work especially if it's true that we live within a 'computer simulation'. I do believe some of what we experience is by design so while we might not remember, it may be true that we have a life plan mapped out pre-birth which is what is often discussed by those who share their NDE experiences and the results of people who explore the work of past life regressionists. Regardless, someone who has lived many lives might find themselves in a dimension that doesn't suit them, with the point being to learn something from the experience they wouldn't have the opportunity to learn unless put into a different dimension. So whatever situation they're put into, it's the choice they make that determines if they're going to bump to a different dimension than where they started. I would have to listen to Dr. Goldberg more to see if my theory falls in line to what he's saying. Maybe there's a better way of presenting this concept than what I'm coming up with....It's hard not to think in linear terms when it comes to dimensions as one often assumes another dimension has to be somewhere where one cannot see what's going on, but I'm not sure that's entirely the case. What do you guys think? It would be interesting to come up with one solid piece of evidence that irrefutably supports the 'mandela effect' to see if it stands under the theory I'm suggesting which does have some scientific backing.

[bsbray]

bsbray, with respect, not everything in life can be proven, i have had experiences that i am unable to prove to anyone else,this does not mean that they did not and can not occur, maybe some things in our lives just are, and their nature prevents "proof" ?, lb

I understand not everything can be proven, which is why I'll remain undecided on all of this until someone develops a testable hypothesis. I have given up having faith in unprovable ideas because I have realized that I have been wrong and had to change my mind too many times already. The "alternative community" personalities are great for leading people along this way, between the Corey Goodes and Simon Parkeses of the world.

At any rate the reverse is not true, that just because something cannot be proven means that it's correct. The reason there are formal methods for testing ideas and trying to prove them in the first place is because people used to believe some crazy stuff just because the Catholic Church said so, anything from the idea that the Earth is the center of the universe to the idea that torturing guilty people produced different results than torturing innocent people. Most people actually believed this stuff, and the consistent stream of nonsense coming from the authorities became such a problem that people had to invent a way to independently verify if things were true or not regardless of human opinions on the matter. I would hope that people not come to scorn reasoning, because it would not be a step forward. If it's used properly it is an invaluable tool for providing reality checks, no pun intended.

I'm willing to entertain the idea in general (that an infinite number of alternative realities do exist and are accessible by some means) but I think there is a lot of fuzzy thinking going on in terms of how shifting between parallel realities might work, because I don't think that physical objects would go as if haphazardly along with the individual who shifts realities. I also think things like "so-and-so used to be dead but now they're alive" or "I remember such-and-such this way but here I see it this way" are totally unreliable arguments in this case. In terms of formal logic they are fallacious because they do not exclude (or even consider) other possible explanations, and shifting between realities is certainly not the only possible explanation, so these arguments are non sequitur (ie there is no reason that this conclusion must follow the alleged facts).

[Novusod]

Maybe this doesn't prove anything. But I will give it a shot.

Take the Forrest Gump quote.

Remember the movie quote where it says: "Life was like a box of chocolates..."

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJh59vZ8ccc

*This video was posted to youtube 5 years ago and is titled "Life is like a box of chocolates..." but Forrest Gump says "Life was" not "Life is."

Same Mandela effect shows up on the DVD cover where it says "Life is like a box of chocolates..."


Double links proving it is not photoshopped:

Link 1
Link 2

Some theories on the Mandela effect is that realities are merging. You have reality "A" and reality "B."
In reality "A" the quote goes: "Life is like a box of chocolates..."
In reality "B" the quote goes: "Life was like a box of chocolates..."
Both those realities merged and now we are living in reality "C" where the box cover is from reality "A" and the movie inside is from reality "B."
The new reality didn't completely replace the old reality. They merged and now some of us are from reality "A" and some are reality "B" but now we are all living in shared reality "C."

This should be considered at least a partial test able proof. If you have a Forest Gump DVD look at what it says on the box and then go play the movie.
If this is reproducible they we really have something. Some skeptics will still say it was just an error in printing the box.

BUT... that can't explain:

Weird Al's "Gump" parody which uses the line "Life is like a box of chocolates."

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oo3xRkDIAM

[enjoy being]

The area of topic regards changing of quotes and the like is a bit of a puzzle to me but do not give it too much more time than that, I am not sure what it means if it is indeed a thing. I am not sure it can be tightly outlined as any specific thing even if it were shown to be, an actual thing. I feel it is a thing which would be clearer to see from the other side of some other area of understanding. Like finding a fragment of pottery and trying to imagine the form it came from. It is not impossible but, maybe as a defeatist, or maybe wisely, I identify this part as a black hole or a piece of possible evidence for a bigger picture. In this instance if it is a thing, to me it is not a door way, it is evidence of a doorway, but in so much as something that is dropped accidentally which has no meaning by what it is, just in that it happened.

Parallel realities exist in day to day life though. I think using those words will make people start thinking about a topic more like the above, some weird multiple of cloned realities inhabiting space. Even using words like timelines helps, but may also have an invocative/evocative tendency to make it sound like some sort of extraordinary thing.

"I hope I am going about putting this in words the right way" though that is just my own snippet of my reality in that moment which I am offering up for people to do with what they will. They might use it or discard it as information. Apply their reality to it and decipher it differently. In other examples they might buy into it as a shared view of reality. They may actually share that view, or they may have been manipulated to believe they do.

This happens in even small ways, and perhaps in some cases it work to say they can be the pebbles in the foundation for bigger things to sit.

20 something years ago it was a Saturday, and one of my room mates had picked up from the airport, an old family friend who had been living abroad. We were sitting there and they had been talking about life and times and then people from back home. The visitor asked how Sue was and the room mate answered and gave a run down on a few things, visitor nodding. Visitor adds, "..and she still working as a nurse?"
"Yes, she is still doing the nursing" is the replies, and he goes on about this that and the other, all quite informative stuff about this person Sue, download his reality of what Sue has been doing and therefore who she now is. The conversation about her went on for maybe 10 minutes, I am not doing it justice. The visitor was emotionally involved, happy about some of Sue's news. "Aww that's so awesome she's had another child" etc.
Until the visitor said after a pause, where the topic was due to change, "Oh and what about her brother, what happened with him?"
"What brother?"
"Her brother, brother!"
"She doesn't have a brother!"
Different Sues. They were similar enough to have many things overlay and go unnoticed while talking. It amazed me, an innocent scenario like that without any intent to distort matters, and they were moments away from going their separate ways, none the wiser, each with a distorted view of reality. This person almost walked away thinking her Sue had had another child for instance.
It must surely happen other times. And times when people are in fact none the wiser.
If we create our own reality, we do it at times with the words we use to describe things and the various distortions and madness's we share. Madness's as in being a false witness. Having a fear and creating a story around it which is untrue but makes you feel better, and then sharing that story as testament to reality, and those people believing it and shaping their experience around it.

..And now... I have lost that train of thought.

[Novusod]

Here are a couple more short videos:

Disney Snow White Book copyright 1973 featuring the quote "mirror, mirror on the wall."

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scdF03wS6ao


Poster from the live action Snow white movie called "Mirror, Mirror"

IMDB link


Simpsons Parody of "Luke, I am your father."

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOOb_o06adA



On Geography some people claim South America moved.

What Google Earth shows.


This picture below caught my eye.
Emblem from Star Trek Mirror Mirror (1966)


Shifted? YES, No, matter of perspective. Inaccurate old maps.

[scibuster]

yes yes yes,
Alzheimer is on the way.
And I have lost and forgotten all my incarnation memories.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_map_projections

Many journalists or filmmakers do not have the fully understanding of all those
complicated projections.
"In which case I have to use which projection ?"
Some ship-captains have more knowledge.
Nowbody has all knowledge.

[ZShawn]

given that everyone has been marinating in aluminum and other neurologically active toxins, it isn't surprising that this thing exists as a thing at all.
however, history is not what it seems and everything seems to run on wild speculations and presumptions, held up by dubious claims and vigorously defended against questions..... curious theater we are all involved in...isn't it.

[bsbray]

This should be considered at least a partial test able proof. If you have a Forest Gump DVD look at what it says on the box and then go play the movie.

It could be evidence, but the problem is that it does not exclusively prove that your entire reality has shifted into a new reality (an entirely new reality -- aside of course from the cover of the DVD, which for some reason shifted reality with you, and all the people who quote the movie incorrectly now, according to this way of thinking). It could also be proof of the looseness with which movie quotes are remembered and promoted, or how the human brain arranges and remembers sensory perception (because the human brain does have a tendency to change what it perceives in order to make it fit a more familiar pattern). These are much more mundane explanations that explain it just as well, if not better, since in those cases we don't have to deal with why a DVD cover (or any physical object at all) followed you into this "new reality." Because there are other hypotheses that could equally apply here, and you are not able to exclude them, is why this is not actually proof of your hypothesis. You'd have to have some evidence that supports your hypothesis while excluding all other possibilities.

If I were living with my girlfriend, a dog, and a cat, and I woke up one morning and someone had destroyed my nice pair of headphones, my immediate suspicion would be that it was either the dog or the cat, which I think would be reasonable enough. But let's say I suspect it was my girlfriend's cat but she rather thinks that it was my dog that did it. So I see scratch marks on them. I can't say that it proves the cat did it, because my girlfriend could argue that my dog's teeth did it. So then I can find cat hair all around it too, but my girlfriend would point out that there is cat hair all over the place already, and again it proves nothing. But then if I were listening to my headphones right before I went to bed, and they were fine, and the dog was outside or locked up in its cage all night, and my headphones were damaged during this time, then it excludes the dog from being able to chew my headphones up and now we "know" it was the cat (short of some completely fantastical chain of events anyway). This is the kind of exclusionary evidence you'd need to rule out other hypotheses.

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I have played with the idea of multiple realities for several years, and sometimes I take it for granted that they exist and we can travel between them at will, because as Robert Anton Wilson says (and I am paraphrasing, so don't accuse me of coming from a parallel reality because I don't get the exact words), "I don't believe anything, I just have suspicions." So I can be pretty fluid in my thoughts without having to stick hard and fast to any given idea.

What I tend to believe personally about all of this is that consciousness itself is the determining factor in what set of reality we are experiencing. Whether you want to look at it from the angle of "free will," and we consciously (ie with our consciousness) make decisions that determine how reality unfolds, and so "shift realities" in that way, or if you want to look at it from a more radical perspective that a change in our consciousness can literally change which reality we are experiencing without having to physically act upon it, I think there might be something to this. Ultimately I think we incarnate here for certain experiences and it would make sense (if that were the case) that each individual would have a lot of options available in order to satisfy that.

There's a big online game called "World of Warcraft" that exists across lots of servers. They duplicate the whole game world on each of these servers, so in that way they are like "parallel universes" of each other where things look more or less the same but the experiences that the players have can vary widely because there are different characters and different chains of events. You can switch between servers, and it would be like switching between different worlds/universes, but in the process you don't take anything else with you except yourself. There is no mechanism (as far as I know, maybe I'm wrong because I don't play the game) to take all of your inventory and that kind of stuff. You either also have it in the other world already or you don't.

This is maybe not the best example but it's more or less what I think would happen if people shift realities. Even atoms are not ultimately solid, "physical" things. They're energy. So if you change realities, it does not make sense to me that anything made out of atoms is going to warp to the new reality with you unchanged, because it's all just energy and the energy should be different. If you are carrying a bunch of random objects over with you as you change realities (like DVD covers), then I can't make any sense out of that by this hypothesis. I would sooner believe that the memory (which appears to be stored in the physical brain) is bad. People have trouble with memory all the time, and diseases can affect memory, so it is a fallible thing dependent on the physical world, at least so long as you are in a physical body. I don't claim to know the physics of the "soul" but I figure that it must have to do with consciousness, which would be the one thing that might cross unchanged from one reality to another.

It goes without saying that all of this stuff is extremely speculative. I would love to have proof of parallel realities (and so would the Farsight Institute -- they're working on it), and of the mechanics of how they interact with each other, but we don't have it here yet and that's why all of this is speculative and we should be taking it all with a big grain of salt to begin with. It could be right, it could be wrong, just like lots of things that we believe. I'm comfortable with the fact that there are some things that we just don't know, and we don't have to try to force it when there is just no real proof.

Incidentally, agnosticism, Taoism and Zen Buddhism seem to have a lot in common.

There is a Taoist story of an old farmer who had worked his crops for many years. One day his horse ran away. Upon hearing the news, his neighbors came to visit. "Such bad luck," they said sympathetically.

"Maybe," the farmer replied.

The next morning the horse returned, bringing with it three other wild horses. "How wonderful," the neighbors exclaimed.

"Maybe," replied the old man.

The following day, his son tried to ride one of the untamed horses, was thrown, and broke his leg. The neighbors again came to offer their sympathy on his misfortune.

"Maybe," answered the farmer.

The day after, military officials came to the village to draft young men into the army. Seeing that the son's leg was broken, they passed him by. The neighbors congratulated the farmer on how well things had turned out.

"Maybe," said the farmer.

[Novusod]

bsbray I don't think your critique is a valid one.

One misplaced thing is an anomaly
Two is a coincidence
Three is a trend

You can't dismiss these points on the frailty of human memory because there is physical evidence or "reality residue" of the Mandela effect occurring. It is not just people's memories and imaginations. It is really happening and can't be dismissed.

Forrest Gump proof (physical evidence only)
- Video from 5 years ago miss-titled with the old quote "Life IS like a box of chocolates"
- DvD box art being wrong
- Weird Al's gump parody also being wrong

Snow White quote
- Disney book from 1973 with the wrong quote "Mirror, mirror"
- Star-Trek episode called "Mirror, mirror" as a homage to Disney movie but it is wrong
- Shrek movie saying "Mirror, mirror"
- Live action movie staring Julia Roberts called "Mirror, mirror."
(That is 4 physical evidences)

Star Wars Empire Strikes back "No I am your father."
- Simpson's parody gets it wrong
- James Earl Jones gets it wrong in an interview
- Robot Chicken parody gets it wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbkN9vb__8
* Other parodies get it wrong as well

bsbray, there is a point where healthy skepticism turns into denial. Now I have given three instances of Mandela effect that are backed up in triplicate with physical evidence. YES, physical evidence.

To use your headphone example; lets say you woke up one morning and not only were your headphones destroyed but your shoes and wallet were chewed up as well. You let this slide for one week and then let it happened again. You blew it off a second time and it happened a third time on the following week. In total you lost 3 sets of headphones, 3 pairs of shoes, and 3 wallets. Would you still believe the nonsense about the cat doing it or would you finally put your foot down and do something about that dog destroying your stuff.

Or maybe you are just in denial because you love your dog so much you don't care that he is destroying your things. Maybe you are OK with that. But you have to understand a lot of people are not going to let stuff like that just slide down the "memory hole." People are not OK with massive inconsistencies. I am talking about the general public here. The general general public is waking up to the matrix for the first time ever in the history of this planet. Now, is not the time to be dismissive.

The Mandela Effect is real and cannot be debunked. What is causing the Mandela effect and what it all means is still open to debate but you can't deny that it is not happening because it is happening. It is real. There is physical proof of reality residue. This is evidence that can't be dismissed without simply ignoring it. As always you are free to believe whatever you want.

[Maggie]

bsbray I don't think your critique is a valid one.

One misplaced thing is an anomaly
Two is a coincidence
Three is a trend

You can't dismiss these points on the frailty of human memory because there is physical evidence or "reality residue" of the Mandela effect occurring. It is not just people's memories and imaginations. It is really happening and can't be dismissed.

Forrest Gump proof (physical evidence only)
- Video from 5 years ago miss-titled with the old quote "Life IS like a box of chocolates"
- DvD box art being wrong
- Weird Al's gump parody also being wrong

Snow White quote
- Disney book from 1973 with the wrong quote "Mirror, mirror"
- Star-Trek episode called "Mirror, mirror" as a homage to Disney movie but it is wrong
- Shrek movie saying "Mirror, mirror"
- Live action movie staring Julia Roberts called "Mirror, mirror."
(That is 4 physical evidences)

Star Wars Empire Strikes back "No I am your father."
- Simpson's parody gets it wrong
- James Earl Jones gets it wrong in an interview
- Robot Chicken parody gets it wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgbkN9vb__8
* Other parodies get it wrong as well

bsbray, there is a point where healthy skepticism turns into denial. Now I have given three instances of Mandela effect that are backed up in triplicate with physical evidence. YES, physical evidence.

To use your headphone example; lets say you woke up one morning and not only were your headphones destroyed but your shoes and wallet were chewed up as well. You let this slide for one week and then let it happened again. You blew it off a second time and it happened a third time on the following week. In total you lost 3 sets of headphones, 3 pairs of shoes, and 3 wallets. Would you still believe the nonsense about the cat doing it or would you finally put your foot down and do something about that dog destroying your stuff.

Or maybe you are just in denial because you love your dog so much you don't care that he is destroying your things. Maybe you are OK with that. But you have to understand a lot of people are not going to let stuff like that just slide down the "memory hole." People are not OK with massive inconsistencies. I am talking about the general public here. The general general public is waking up to the matrix for the first time ever in the history of this planet. Now, is not the time to be dismissive.

The Mandela Effect is real and cannot be debunked. What is causing the Mandela effect and what it all means is still open to debate but you can't deny that it is not happening because it is happening. It is real. There is physical proof of reality residue. This is evidence that can't be dismissed without simply ignoring it. As always you are free to believe whatever you want.

I don't understand what you are pointing towards? You do believe things changed? But if they altogether changed, why would there be varied memory? Is this memory or change REALLY?

In my memory, "mirror, Mirror" was what the Queen said. I thought people were saying it's "Magic Mirror" but old books show NOT.

in the Forrest Gump movie, he slurs the word so it could be heard as "was" but grammar points to "is"?
In my memory Nelson Mandela did not die in prison.

The only variant I sort of recall was Berenstein but I was too old to read those books...not my generation. I do see Berenstain on Google search? But I never paid attention until the controversy.

I am just as amazed at the traction of this meme as I was about the Flat Earth. I don't really doubt various timelines but what I don't get is the details that are being pointed towards as evidence nad the seeming controversy. I still think that a real changed timeline changes everything?

[Novusod]

I don't understand what you are pointing towards? You do believe things changed? But if they altogether changed, why would there be varied memory? Is this memory or change REALLY?

In my memory, "mirror, Mirror" was what the Queen said. I thought people were saying it's "Magic Mirror" but old books show NOT.

in the Forrest Gump movie, he slurs the word so it could be heard as "was" but grammar points to "is"?
In my memory Nelson Mandela did not die in prison.

The only variant I sort of recall was Berenstein but I was too old to read those books...not my generation. I do see Berenstain on Google search? But I never paid attention until the controversy.

I am just as amazed at the traction of this meme as I was about the Flat Earth. I don't really doubt various timelines but what I don't get is the details that are being pointed towards as evidence and the seeming controversy. I still think that a real changed timeline changes everything?

The queen says "Magic Mirror on the wall." This video is from a different reality then the one you grew up in if you think it says "Mirror, Mirror."

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqmIMvWnIV8


Then there is the Shrek parody where he says "Mirror, Mirror."

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H28TWyDJJ6I


These two videos should not exist in the same reality. The videos shouldn't contradict each other. They should both say "Mirror, Mirror" or both say "Magic Mirror." One video is from reality "A" and the other is from reality "B." This is proof of reality residue. Same thing goes with the book contradicting the movie version. The book and the movie should be the same BUT they are not. This is what makes the Mandela effect real.


The same phenomenon can be seen in Forrest Gump where the scene says "Life was like a box of chocolates" but "Life IS like a box of chocolates" is written on the DvD case. It written is right on the DvD case. There is no room to say it is a slurred line because it is written out clear as day: "Life is like a box of chocolates."


If the Mandela effect surprises you how much traction it gained then you need to dig deeper. What I gather from your own words is you are experiencing it. You just haven't realized it yet.