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    Hillary now not viable at all, even for tptW IMO,

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    You say that, and I say that, but there are enough zombies and paid-off media out there that they may still try to force her into the White House against all odds. The major media machine, still commanded by the DNC (nobody in major media ever pushed the issue with the DNC email leaks, so why should that change, right?), has definitely not been fair to both candidates. They try to paint a very skewed image of a woman who in reality should be in prison for any number of corruption charges and is falling apart mentally and physically on top of that.

    That's why I'm becoming concerned that there might be serious problems this fall.

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    bsbray, will you help me understand how the DNC or Clinton machine are controlling the media? I don't get it. Who's paying who? Who owns who/what? There should be plenty of money in covering Trump. I'm confused.

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    Democratic Strategist Calls For The Assassination Of Julian Assange

    Amid the media-hyped furor over Donald Trump's 2nd Amendment comments and Wikileaks' suggestions about the untimely death of DNC-staffer Seth Rich, we thought it perhaps of note that Democratic strategist, and CNN host, has publicly called for the "illegal assassination of that son-of-a-bitch" Julian Assange...

    Met Bob Beckel - Democratic strategist, CNN host (former Fox host), and clear "treasonous, traitor" Assange-hater...
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...julian-assange
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    Wikileaks released a bunch of emails they obtained from the Democratic National Convention, including a bunch of Debbie Wasserman Schultz's personal exchanges with people within and outside of the DNC.

    Just a few things I remember being in them:

    - Schultz didn't like the tone that Chuck Todd (a talking head on MSNBC and the head of political news on NBC) had taken in one of his articles and told him via email that they needed to talk. Chuck obeyed. You can look up the original wording and tone in their exchange, but there are multiple examples like this that demonstrate direct collusion, including legal and financial collusion, between the DNC and various media organizations. I believe someone asked over Twitter to Chuck Todd if he'd respond the same way to criticism from the RNC or the Trump campaign over one of their articles, but not sure if they got a response.
    - The DNC was staging protests of Trump rallies and having the MSM cover them. In the emails, a DNC official complains about the small number of people photographed protesting in one area, and said that instead of taking a picture like (for presentation in the media) that it would be better to send interns down there (paid interns, still on the clock) to stand in as protestors for a photo op.
    - The DNC was working with some media company, I think the Washington Post, to promote the Clinton campaign. Their lawyers advised that this was illegal and that they couldn't do it, so they found a work-around that allowed it the collusion through a technicality.
    - The DNC was rewarding big donors to the Clinton campaign with appointments to positions to the federal government (obviously a serious crime).
    - While Schultz was saying publicly as head of the DNC that she was impartial and would accept whatever candidate voters elected, she was at the exact same time working with people in the DNC to sabotage Bernie's campaign or promote Hillary's in some way. This is massive disenfranchisement of party voters and the democratic process in American government. The superdelegate system also was rigged in Hillary's favor from the start but that's another issue.

    But the biggest indicator of all, is that when media outlets like Washington Post, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, etc., get called out for illegal collusion with a political party, and emails are released to the public proving the crime, all major media outlets totally ignored the story until it got something like 5 million views on Twitter and other social media websites and forced the issue into public awareness. Even then I don't know that any major media companies are really pursuing it, and of course they wouldn't if they have all been working together in this the whole time. There are only something like 5 or 6 corporations that own upwards of 90% of all media in the US now anyway.


    You can search the emails on Wikileaks: https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

    A guy connected to the DNC died lately who Julian Assange is suggesting was the guy who leaked the info. The Clinton campaign had been claiming that Russia hacked the DNC, to distract from all of the evidence of illegal conduct contained in the emails. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...-shot-dead-dc/
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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    I'm sorry Aianawa but not even Bernie Sanders is fighting for himself anymore, and the DNC was never fighting for him, and a bunch of angry college kids who want free education aren't going to topple the system and force him on the throne either. It's over for him. Even if Hillary is taken out the DNC is not going to replace Hillary with Bernie. You'll sooner see Joe Biden up there or somebody like that.
    If it's not going to be Hillary, then John Kerry might give it a go again. He did after all lose out against Dubya in 2004.





    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    A guy connected to the DNC died lately who Julian Assange is suggesting was the guy who leaked the info. The Clinton campaign had been claiming that Russia hacked the DNC, to distract from all of the evidence of illegal conduct contained in the emails. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...-shot-dead-dc/
    Indeed, and Malc has just posted a thread about it, here.
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    GOP senator: Trump will make world more dangerous

    This breaking of ranks with the political parties is like never before. The rotten corpse of the political system is becoming so obvious even a pokeman go player can see it. Without two candidates representing the gangsters the political parties are in a panic. Panicked people do not think clearly and make desperate decisions.

    US Republican Senator Susan Collins says her party's presidential nominee Donald Trump, if elected, will make the world "more dangerous".

    "Donald Trump, in my judgment, would make a perilous world even more dangerous," Collins said in an interview with CNN on Tuesday.

    "I worry that his tendency to lash out and his ill-informed comments would cause dangerous events to escalate and possibly spin out of control at a time when our world is beset with conflicts. That is a real problem," she added.

    The senator from Maine had already expressed her reluctance to endorse Trump as long as the GOP nominee did not change his inflammatory rhetoric and policies.

    A handful of other Republican senators have joined Collins in not voting for the New York businessman for president and several of others have voiced their resistance to the notion.
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    Assessment: Seth Rich “Hit” a Wikileaks/Mossad op to Save Flagging Trump Campaign

    By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor on August 10, 2016 http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/08...rump-campaign/

    There is no such thing as “Wikileaks.” The organization, such as it was, broke up years ago. Assange manages nothing from the Ecuadorian embassy or during his evening field trips to the “pedophile palaces” of the Tory elites that make up his circle of friends in Britain.

    When George “W” Bush, most hated politician in the world, least popular ex-president in history, a man that makes Nixon look like a “man of the people,” withheld support for Trump, don’t you think he is doing exactly what Trump asked for?

    When 50 hated Bush staffers dumped on Trump, a rogues gallery of named war criminals or universally hated neocons, the worst of Washington’s dregs, dumped on Trump when the Trump campaign was hopelessly drowning, 8 points behind in the polls and sinking, it had to be obvious. This is an attempt to make Trump seem credible. Didn’t anyone notice that those who signed the letter all work for Sheldon Adelson?

    Sheldon Adelson is the biggest backer of Donald Trump. Adelson actually employs Benjamin Netanyahu to aid in casino licenses and Adelson is the biggest donor to Netanyahu’s political life.

    Netanyahu is the biggest mass murderer in recent history and Trumps biggest silent backer.

    Julian Assange of Wikileaks has often spoken of his admiration of Netanyhau, the biggest mass murderer of recent times.

    Are you yet getting the picture?

    The idea that a Mossad front, Wikileaks, that has done nothing but leak (and fabricate) pro-Trump conspiracy material, that has fronted for Israel as proven as early as 2010, an organization that openly admits that Israel filters all releases, has credibility of any kind is an abuse of reason.

    We begin with a lie, an openly gay mind control drone, Assange, packaged by the press, packaged by the Zionist Murdoch press empire, protected by Britain’s powerful pedophile community, that this manufactured stooge should have a voice at all is an abuse of reason.

    We met Assange as an alleged date rapist of a pair of Swedish “ladies.” This reminds us all of when Larry Flynt accused openly gay George W. Bush of getting 5 women pregnant, a cover for the White House overnight sojourns of Jeff Gannon.

    The idea that Trump, tied through his mentor, mob lawyer Roy Cohn, to the kind of people who shoot people down in the street, isn’t supposed to benefit from this killing is an abuse of reason. It was obviously done to benefit him by his supporters, and we see this as a Mossad/Wikileaks op.

    The GOP is nothing but a pack of killers, Blackwater is pure GOP. Funny enough, Negroponte showed up on yesterday’s phony anti-Trump letter though he is closely tied to the Trump camp. “Negroponte” means “death squad.”

    Then of course, Trump has promised Israel that he will end all US opposition to West Bank settlements and end all voice for the Palestinian people, all discussions over recognition of a Palestinian state or “right of return.”

    The Democrats and all previous Republican presidents have honored the endless UN resolutions that demand Israeli withdrawal and the provisions of the Geneva Convention that make Trumps position a war crime.

    If Seth was shot down in the street in Washington like Roland Carnaby was killed in Houston or John Wheeler III was killed in DC (dumped in Delaware) there is only one organization capable of doing this.

    That organization is the Mossad. Julian Assange is Mossad and has made that clear to anyone who pays any attention at all.

    Trump’s position on the West Bank has made supporting his campaign a redline for Israel, one they will kill anyone, anywhere, for.

    We aren’t going to mention what he has promised Russia over Crimea. We love the Russians here and won’t dare accuse them of killing people to support Trump, not when Israel is there to do the dirty work for them.

    What has Trump promised others? The list is endless, notwithstanding what he can do for organized crime.

    Wikileaks offers $20k reward over dead DNC staffer, but won’t confirm he leaked emails



    Assange made the comments on Dutch television about a DNC staffer’s murder. © Peter Nicholls / Reuters
    The whistleblowing organization Wikileaks wants to catch those responsible for the murder of Democratic National Committee (DNC) staffer Seth Rich and are now offering a $20,000 reward for information.
    The group’s co-founder Julian Assange suggested on Dutch television that if Rich is the source of the 20,000 emails exposing the party’s sabotage of the Bernie Sanders campaign in favor of Hillary Clinton, he may have been killed over it.

    However, when asked if Rich was a Wikileaks source, Assange refused to comment, merely saying they were investigating the circumstances surrounding his murder.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg


    Wikileaks tweeted about the reward on Tuesday for information leading to the “conviction for the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich.”

    Rich worked as voter expansion data director at the DNC before he was shot twice on his way home on July 10. He died later in hospital.

    “If it was a robbery — it failed because he still has his watch, he still has his money — he still has his credit cards, still had his phone so it was a wasted effort except we lost a life,” his father Joel Rich told local TV station KMTV.

    Assange made his comments on Dutch television show Nieuwsuur. When asked why he was commenting on Rich’s murder, he said, “Because we have to understand how high the stakes are in the United States.”

    Wikileaks offers a secure upload submission option in which no identifying data about a source is recorded, according to the whistleblowing website.
    Under these circumstances, Assange and Wikileaks staff would not know who sent them the DNC emails.

    Wikileaks also claimed on Tuesday that Ecuador were being pressured to end Assange’s asylum in their London embassy over fears the leak could damage the country’s reputation with the US.

    Social media ignited in reaction to the Wikileaks tweet with a range of jokes and conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally posted by lift the veil View Post
    When George “W” Bush, most hated politician in the world, least popular ex-president in history, a man that makes Nixon look like a “man of the people,” withheld support for Trump, don’t you think he is doing exactly what Trump asked for?
    No, not really. In fact I don't think you can back up the idea that he's the "most hated politician in the world." Trump could afford to disparage the Bush family and still win the Republican primary, but the fact that Jeb was running too is indication enough that not everyone agrees with your assessment on Bush popularity. They are a hated family, yes, and for good reason, but not by everyone.

    The hilarious expressions on Jeb Bush's face when Trump insulted him on stage during the primaries is another indication that they weren't just playing pretend up there.

    Netanyahu is the biggest mass murderer in recent history and Trumps biggest silent backer.
    What leads you to this conclusion?

    We begin with a lie, an openly gay mind control drone, Assange, packaged by the press, packaged by the Zionist Murdoch press empire, protected by Britain’s powerful pedophile community, that this manufactured stooge should have a voice at all is an abuse of reason.

    We met Assange as an alleged date rapist of a pair of Swedish “ladies.” This reminds us all of when Larry Flynt accused openly gay George W. Bush of getting 5 women pregnant, a cover for the White House overnight sojourns of Jeff Gannon.
    You say someone is "openly gay" when they admit they are gay to the public. I don't think George W. Bush has ever said anything like this.

    Then of course, Trump has promised Israel that he will end all US opposition to West Bank settlements and end all voice for the Palestinian people, all discussions over recognition of a Palestinian state or “right of return.”

    The Democrats and all previous Republican presidents have honored the endless UN resolutions that demand Israeli withdrawal and the provisions of the Geneva Convention that make Trumps position a war crime.
    Can you give me sources for Trump claiming that he will "end all voice for the Palestinian people" or make sure Israel keeps Palestinian land? Also what has Obama or Bush done honor UN demands that Israel withdraw from Palestinian territory? I haven't seen anything like that from past presidents. Israel just got done killing a bunch of Palestinians and taking more land just last year and no one was very vocal about it in the US.

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    Gordon's not giving sources for these things he's writing.

    It looks like this text is pretty much his. He says some outrageous and often off-base things. I haven't looked much beyond this particular item yet, just into the tragic killing of Rich.

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    Skip to 1:15 if you don't want to see the ads.


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    This made me laugh. The debates will be pure comedy gold...

    Unless something happens before them.


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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Gordon's not giving sources for these things he's writing.
    You know what, I was skimming through the text quickly and missed the attribution to Duff at the top.

    This is the "100% disabled" Vietnam vet (meaning unable to work) who, according to his own ever-changing biography on Veterans Today, has been involved with the Federal Reserve and the financial industry, military and intelligence operations in the Middle East, and a whole list of other things aside from writing these articles.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    You know what, I was skimming through the text quickly and missed the attribution to Duff at the top.
    I figured you had missed that.

    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    This is the "100% disabled" Vietnam vet (meaning unable to work) who, according to his own ever-changing biography on Veterans Today, has been involved with the Federal Reserve and the financial industry, military and intelligence operations in the Middle East, and a whole list of other things aside from writing these articles.
    There's a very special place for Gordon Duff on the shelf of alt media celebrities, right next to Benjamin Fulford, David Wilcock and Bill Deagle. Even Alex Jones shoots closer to the mark — and by a huge margin, for that matter.

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    Hmmm..don't know who Bill Deagle is. But perhaps I don't need to. I recall an interview I heard a while ago with Mr. Duff who was saying no one in America believes in God and no one goes to church. I thought, Huh?

    And there are the weird disclaimers about how this is written for the intelligence community so if you're not part of it you won't really get it.

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